The Mangler Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 How do you make competitive army lists with the chaos space marine codex without using any lashes? My friends said it cannot be done but I think it can. (sorry if this has already been asked but I could not find anything) Your help please. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161910-competitive-no-lash/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidoneus Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Nurgle Princes with Warptime, couple Defliers/Vindicators, unit of oblits, lots of Plague Marines in rhinos, and maybe some lesser daemons. That's one example of an effective list with no lashes. There are others. Lash is good, but there's other good stuff in the codex too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161910-competitive-no-lash/#findComment-1901988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_giles Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I'd think a 'zerker army could work. Power weapons and fists on the champs (I usually went with axes of khorne and fists in the previous codex but since that isn't an option *sigh* ), lots of big rhino squads, defilers/vindicators (Kannons of Khorne anyone?), and basically just rush the hell forward to smack them down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161910-competitive-no-lash/#findComment-1902011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 My friends said it cannot be done LOL. They seem to have forgotten they have a whole codex and not just one unit choice... Berzerkers in rhinos. Plaguemarines in rhinos. Obliterators. Defilers. Sometimes predators/land raiders. CSM squads. TERMINATORS! Any of the HQ's, sans Fabius. All of these things are competitve, though I'd have to say the sorceror doesn't do much either. As for a list, Aidoneus' is good, there's also terminator heavy lists that work, CSM + daemons for troops, then add pretty much any of the heavy supports, elites, and hq's that you want for another list. Really, there's a lot to do with Chaos. There's far more than just one list to play with. Any competent opponent can put Lash down to minor shennanigans that end up having no outcome on the battle, putting that whole list idea to the sword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161910-competitive-no-lash/#findComment-1902087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidren2401 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Tell your friends when they come up against Eldrad, or any Eldar Farseer with Runes of Warding for that matter, they'll be wishing they hadn't built they're lists around a psychic power. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161910-competitive-no-lash/#findComment-1902505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelias Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 i've seen someone deepstrike an inquisitor with a termie squad in such a way that the daemon prince either had to move out of harms way (limiting his lashing options) or fight them. so lash is in no way a no-brainer option. the trouble really only starts when someone is lame enough to use 2x lash princes and that's pretty lame :) i've never used it myself as i prefer a lord with wings and daemon weapon, sure it's not the best on paper but he's never let me down and the model i built is cool ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161910-competitive-no-lash/#findComment-1902739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 How do you make competitive army lists with the chaos space marine codex without using any lashes?My friends said it cannot be done but I think it can. I've never used lash and I win most of my games. I don't build my army around HQ, I build my army around troops. I won 2 games last night and my chaos lord never even got into HTH. Who ever said that you can't make a competitive chaos army w/out lashes, either is not a good chaos player or has never played against a good chaos player. P.S. I agree w/ Cornelias here, I usually use an undivided lord w/ wings & D. weop. Has never let me down (even when he doesn't even get into HTH ^_^ ) I use an undivided sorc. w/ wings & doombolt in smaller games, or if I just feel like it. But like I said; my army list and game strategy is centered on troops, not HQ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161910-competitive-no-lash/#findComment-1902798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 How do you make competitive army lists with the chaos space marine codex without using any lashes?My friends said it cannot be done but I think it can. (sorry if this has already been asked but I could not find anything) Your help please. I do not use Lash on my Daemon Prince in tournament (My warsmith has never been one fo magic other than daemonic gift ;) ). My army mech being Daemon Prince with just wing, 2x 4 unit Termies with Combi Plasma, 3x 10 CSM unit (not cult, we are IW) w/Heavy Bolter/Plasma or Melta/Power Weapon champ & Icon in Rhinos, 4 Oblits. I got nothing against it, just find a lot people over rated in much same way rending is/was (how many time in 4th Ed would you see Rending in a game, for me was 10ish time). My tournament so far since useing this army been -40k Radio world wide war came 5th on Scotland side of thing 38th/39th? when they added up all the part around the world (having fought on table 1 for two round & then table two on the last, fought many many hard games vs really good oppents) -UKGT, did not do so well due to a rule mess up (my oppent was not cheating in anyway. Just rule was not clear & was not answer unit a week after :) for the UKGT heat 2 ) -Rapid Fire, I came 4th over all with 4pts away from 3rd place (damn Tau commander on one wound :lol: ) -ELG Rompa Stompa. Then I will be battling it in a tournament in a month time with the same list said there. IP Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161910-competitive-no-lash/#findComment-1902858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mangler Posted March 2, 2009 Author Share Posted March 2, 2009 I thought that there were many other strong options for a chaos list and you guys proved me right. Thank you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161910-competitive-no-lash/#findComment-1903355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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