SONS OF MALICE ARMY SUGGESTIONS

[killingstuff]

Hey guys, does anyone have any ideas for a Sons of Malice army? im not sure whether to use a blood angels list,khorne list or just something else, i understand of their allegance to the god Malal and im not sure how to make the marine squads look either, any help or suggestions at all will be greatley appreciated! thx!

[Rubrics Cube]

Hey guys, does anyone have any ideas for a Sons of Malice army? im not sure whether to use a blood angels list,khorne list or just something else, i understand of their allegance to the god Malal and im not sure how to make the marine squads look either, any help or suggestions at all will be greatley appreciated! thx!

 

Oho,how splendid!How rare it is to see a Sons of Malice army,much more underated than those red corsairs... :o

 

Well,SoM are described as being cannibalistic in a bit of fluff that I read about them,they fight in pure silence,which passes as their battle cry(which is described by their enemies as being "very disturbing").

 

I would think it would be appropriate model-wise to make the models,for the most part,helmeted or those who aren't having long,wild hair,and have their armour gore-splattered,starting from the mouth,as if blood has gushed down from their recent juicy meal... :)

 

Dread Axe is also their signature weapon,accoring to an old comic involing a Malal-worshipping knight who always screamed "Dread axe thirts for you!",and so I suppose axes would be appropriate.

 

They apparently captured a seraphim Sister of Battle who assualted them during a banquet,before they killed them off,grabbed the leader in question and devoured her.They are frienzied lunatics who will assault ANY legion there is.

 

Hope this helps,have a look at lexicanum.com for any more fluff,it should help.

 

 

Best of luck,the CuuUuuUube! ;)

 

EDIT:For rules,I'd reccomend a renegade list,as that is what they are meant to be,but whatever suits your fancy.Also there colours are black and white split.

[minigun762]

Hey guys, does anyone have any ideas for a Sons of Malice army? im not sure whether to use a blood angels list,khorne list or just something else, i understand of their allegance to the god Malal and im not sure how to make the marine squads look either, any help or suggestions at all will be greatley appreciated! thx!

 

Typically the Sons of Malice are done doing normal CSM rules with an emphasis on Undivided. They could also be done using the normal SM rules as well.

Since Malal doesn't really exist officially anymore, fluff and background is hard to come by. What little is known is that he's the god of renegades and the downtrodden who gains power parasitically as the other 4 Chaos Gods increase their power.

With that in mind, I think you could easily justify using multiple Icons in your CSM force, to represent the leeched power from those gods increasing Malal's own forces.

 

Lastly, Malal's followers are typically few in number, but very powerful so a small elite army would be appropriate.

[Rubrics Cube]

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Sons_of_Malice

 

Here you go,it's a small amount of fluff for them...

[killingstuff]

Hey guys, does anyone have any ideas for a Sons of Malice army? im not sure whether to use a blood angels list,khorne list or just something else, i understand of their allegance to the god Malal and im not sure how to make the marine squads look either, any help or suggestions at all will be greatley appreciated! thx!

 

Oho,how splendid!How rare it is to see a Sons of Malice army,much more underated than those red corsairs... :o

 

Well,SoM are described as being cannibalistic in a bit of fluff that I read about them,they fight in pure silence,which passes as their battle cry(which is described by their enemies as being "very disturbing").

 

I would think it would be appropriate model-wise to make the models,for the most part,helmeted or those who aren't having long,wild hair,and have their armour gore-splattered,starting from the mouth,as if blood has gushed down from their recent juicy meal... :)

 

Dread Axe is also their signature weapon,accoring to an old comic involing a Malal-worshipping knight who always screamed "Dread axe thirts for you!",and so I suppose axes would be appropriate.

 

They apparently captured a seraphim Sister of Battle who assualted them during a banquet,before they killed them off,grabbed the leader in question and devoured her.They are frienzied lunatics who will assault ANY legion there is.

 

Hope this helps,have a look at lexicanum.com for any more fluff,it should help.

 

 

Best of luck,the CuuUuuUube! ;)

 

EDIT:For rules,I'd reccomend a renegade list,as that is what they are meant to be,but whatever suits your fancy.Also there colours are black and white split.

THANKS MAN! awsome information and i heard of them eating the inquisitor and now youve explained it all in vast detail! thx again!

[killingstuff]

thanks for all ur help dudes!

[Rubrics Cube]

THANKS MAN! awsome information and i heard of them eating the inquisitor and now youve explained it all in vast detail! thx again!

 

Haha,glad I could help. :o

[Mutt-Man!]

Sons of malice could easily be represented by an icon + fabius bile's enhancements. To represent their lunacy as well as Malal's blessings. Diguise the icon(s) in question as something Malal-ish and tell your opponent what they are beforehand. Also, fabius can be represented as something else, but try to remain WYSIWYG-ish.

[Captain Ienai]

I too have decided to run SoM. I will be building them using DogHouse's Actual Size Marine tutorial. I have been researching an army for quite awhile and think that I have found a good fit for me. Chaos without the crazy warp distortions.. etc..

 

 

" would think it would be appropriate model-wise to make the models,for the most part,helmeted or those who aren't having long,wild hair,and have their armour gore-splattered,starting from the mouth,as if blood has gushed down from their recent juicy meal... " - Rubrics Cube

 

Great idea! I think I will start looking for either some long wild hair head models or start working on my green stuff hair! heh Though I think the green stuff hair will be much more to my liking. Also, the gore-splattered armor sounds amazing. I think that will really add a certain touch to what I am going for :cry:.

 

 

I am planning on running them with the new SM codex so I can run with drop pods and the new Imp Guard book for traitor guard that have signed up with Malal. I will be posting pictures as soon as I get the first model made and painted. I will also be creating a post for this army in the Works in Progress section of the forum for those that are interested in checking in on the progress.

[Sons of Horus]

i'd go more on the undivided side for SoM.

 

never mind my suggested paint scheme. i just remembered they use black and white.

[chillin]

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Sons_of_Malice

 

Here you go,it's a small amount of fluff for them...

 

Got to remember stuff on lexicanum is crap. Fan writen

Black and white armor, worship Malal. That's about all there is really. All that stuff about being cannibals, long hair, eating a SoB, gore splattered, etc. has never appeared in a 40k or GW publication (if I'm wrong about this please supply references) and sounds like fan written crap by some kid that sniffed too much glue.

[Lay]

Apparently, the SoM are featured in the "Heroes of the Space Marines" anthology. I'd keep an eye on that.

 

All that stuff about being cannibals, long hair, eating a SoB, gore splattered, etc. has never appeared in a 40k or GW publication (if I'm wrong about this please supply references)

UK WD 303 (except for the part about having long hair)

[Argon]

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Sons_of_Malice

 

Here you go,it's a small amount of fluff for them...

 

Got to remember stuff on lexicanum is crap. Fan writen

 

Dude, it's not ALL bad. They've removed some of the fan fluff. Seriously, they cite their sources when it comes to official info, which makes the fan fluff really obvious.

[Captain Ienai]

I was beat to the punch. Good job Argon.

[Sarrat]

Some see the Sons of Malice as a horde of blood thirsty maniacs, ala Blood Angels/ World Eaters. I however have a different take on them.

I see them as noble/savages who practice ritual cannabalism of an enemy's heart after battle.

There are many fan fic peices out there, you can check mine out below for a look at the Sons as Anti-Heroes. Hope that helps with ideas. B)

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...blogid=279&

[Captain Ienai]

Hmmm I don't see anything on the link Sarrat.

[Sarrat]

Weird, works fine for me. Its a link to my B&C Blog. You can get there thru my profile too.

 

Try the link in my sig.

[Captain Ienai]

It sends me to your blog... but there is nothing on the page ... hmmm is this because I have not donated yet?

[chillin]

It sends me to your blog... but there is nothing on the page ... hmmm is this because I have not donated yet?

 

That's b/c it's actually a virus link to let Malal possess you through your computer keyboard.

Feeling more vengeful and spiteful (then usual) yet ??

[Wazir]

Hey guys, does anyone have any ideas for a Sons of Malice army?

 

Sons of Malice/Malal ideas:

 

Oh, yeah, I got plenty of ideas, I've been very slowly painting such an army for a year now. Here's my approach:

 

Going with a Halved black/white color scheme instead of the quartered per the pic in 3rd Ed. CSM codex. I feel the half black/white ties back to Malal better than quartered. But, I'm keeping the quartered scheme for some elite troops like chosen and terminators to make them stand out.

 

I find the half black/white skull symbol of Malal a pain to paint, so for a chapter symbol I'm using the upper half of the chaos star. I.e. the top 5 points of the 8 point symbol. The 5 points represent the 5 horns of Malal and it is a lot easier to paint by hand. Also, there are a lot of chaos figures with a 8 point chaos symbol or the eye of horus symbol which can be converted easily to a 5 point symbol by filing off or painting out the bottom half.

 

I've taken fantasy manticore and stuck on 5 horns and greenstuffed a 3rd eye to make a greater demon of Malal. (Adding teeth is beyond my conversion abilities.)

 

Belakor absolutely will be joining my army as a GD/DP. Got the model just haven't painted him up yet.

 

For an army list I'm using a standard renegade CSM chaos glory list. No cult troops, no icons of the 4 most hated gods.

 

For actual figures I'm mainly using standard CSM figures. Fluff doesn't clearly indicate how long before the 13th Black Crusade the SoM were excommunicated ( 1 yr, 1 century?). But it is widely assumed it wasn't very long. So I would have preferred to use SM figures with a few chaos bits thrown in, but quite simply didn't have the figures available to take this approach. I use very few mutations though.

 

Psychology backstorywise: My SoM were recruited from the feral world of Scelus where cannibalism was practiced and then made space marines and given a Omahagea which encourages the consumption of intelligent enemies. So they see absolutely no morale or ethical problems with cannibalism. To be declared heretic, attacked, and excommunicated because of that is simply an inexcusable act of betrayal by the imperium. Having always dwelt on the edge of the Eye of Terror they have always born a deep hatred of chaos. Surrounded by enemies, cut off from the emperor and hating chaos what choice did they have but to turn to Malal as a patron.

 

Links to fuzzy pictures: (No one has survived taking clear pictures of the Sons of Malice.)

CSMs

Rhino w/Extra Armor

Chosen

Grtr Daemon of Malal

Landraider

[lord_bunny]

Maals deamons were also reptilian/crocadile like I think, so try using lizard men models as the basis for your summoned deamons.

[Kurgan the Lurker]

Apparently, the SoM are featured in the "Heroes of the Space Marines" anthology. I'd keep an eye on that.

 

Indeed they are, though in the story they worship "Malice" rather than "Malal". Described as the exalted Malice, the Renegade God, the Outcast, Malice the Lost, Heirarch of Anarchy and Terror. They are preparing for a Crusade to retake Scelus from the Imperium in the story. Decent read.

 

 

 

Weird, works fine for me. Its a link to my B&C Blog. You can get there thru my profile too.

 

Try the link in my sig.

 

You haven't published your entries (they are drafts by default). You need to hit the ENTRY OPTIONS button under each entry and then hit the PUBLISH button before other folks can see them.

[Captain Ienai]

I am mixing Catachan Guard with SM models. I want to rep my SoM as unaffected by Chaos. I just ordered the book and am hoping to burn through it by Sunday so I can decide if I want to change my mind about using SM models and go with limited mutation CSM models. My previous idea about building a "Actual Size Marine" army seems to be a little out of my price range. Though when I make my dioramas I will be using that method to build my Golden Demon entries for SoM.

 

Wazir - Great job on painting and posting some pictures. I find too often that people state they are making SoM armies and seem to get lost in the void and never post any pictures. I really like your idea about halfing the colors for troops and quartering for elites. I am still planning on Quartering the entire army. i should be able to post some pictures of my SoM within the next month. Again, I need to get the book that their mentioned in and find out how mutated the BL has made them. I just got the new CSM Codex and I am very disappointed to find that Dreadaxe was removed entirely. That and daemon weapons that have a mark get extra abilities over the non-marked weapons. But, I suppose a Power Axe will have to work.. or maybe figure out how to get a force weapon on my champion. Part of me is hoping that they are sort of mutated so that I can mod up a wicked looking Daemon Prince. But, if they are not mutated... good news for me still. Also, with the withdrawl of Dreadaxe I might just end up playing my SoM with the SM codex and not the CSM codex. It honestly does not make much sense to use the CSM codex when I will not benefit from almost 50% of the units the army can field. I will look into it further tomorrow. Lets keep this post alive and building. I love to see constructive posts about the SoM. If we can get more people to jump on the SoM bandwagon we might be able to petition for our own form section or if not that perhaps a sticky :P

 

Anyway, time for sleep. Really looking forward to post pictures and seeing some of everyone's creations.

 

Edit: I am working on an easy way to paint the emblem. Once I have it down to the point where I am pleased by it i will create a tutorial for those that might need instructions and or a little help.

[Sarrat]

Weird, works fine for me. Its a link to my B&C Blog. You can get there thru my profile too.

 

Try the link in my sig.

 

You haven't published your entries (they are drafts by default). You need to hit the ENTRY OPTIONS button under each entry and then hit the PUBLISH button before other folks can see them.

 

 

Wow, how did I miss that? Done, thanks Kurgan!

[Captain Ienai]

Ahhh I can see it now Sarrat. <_< I will try and read it tonight.

 

 

EDIT:

 

I just found out that it will be very difficult to field a SoM army the way I wanted so I will be holding off for a week or two until I get the book and decide where I want to go with this army.