Tedwin's Tip of Thursday: March 5.

[tedwin183]

Here we are again!!! I actually remembered to do this again! Anyways, so this week's game was a double's game with me and another codex marine against a chaos player and an Eldar player. My main focus is going to be on the Eldar player. I'll tell you why. The chaos player was a nice kid. He was friendly about the rules and had a good, semi-self-abusive sense of humor, especially towards his army. The Eldar player on the other hand was just coming out of hibernation...He hadn't played since the end of 4th edition, and hadn't gotten but a few games in under 5th edition. As soon as this guy set up his army, you could tell her was "that guy". It was a friendly 1500pt game and the guy immediately sets 20 fully decked out rangers on the table and looks at my teammate and me and smiles. Now, this would be only mildly a B) move if this was his original intention. Rest assured, though, it wasn't. My teammate and me were standing a ways away from our opponents talking about strategy. He happens to walk by, stand in the bathroom behind us and hear us listing off what is in our lists. We specifically took quite a bit of anti-tank because he was bragging about a huge grav-tank list that he was using lately.

 

So, regardless, we both end up smiling back at him, explaining that they aren't going to get their saves. He simply replies "yes they will, they're cover saves." We reply: "Not when we fire thunderfire and whirlwind rounds at you that ignores cover..." He quickly realizes his HUGE points sink mistake and begins justifying how they're more than just ridiculous to kill and have stupid sniper rifle powers...but that they were good troops. He didn't have a single one of them next to, or even CLOSE to their objective. Then, throughout the game, he tries to call 4th edition rules where they help him out and 5th edition where they help him out. He was lax about his measuring, but denied us less than a quarter of an inches distance for a shot. He was a poor, poor sport. Constantly wanted to debate everything in the space marine codex, claiming we weren't correct about our OWN armies.

 

So, here's the tip of the week:

 

Seems like the new SM codex special characters have sort of "worked their way through the grapevine", so to speak. Everyone knows about them and knows most of them are pretty nasty. In particular, most know how bad Lysander and Vulkan are. My teammate and I took both of them this game. For the first few turns, our opponents were trying to make moves to counter the moves we were making with those units. We kept both models well hidden amongst a squad they'd join. So, for this week, go out and practice some "mind tactics". There are units that may not be totally devastating, but their mental warfare abilities are considerable.

[Ramora]

cant wait for next weeks installment

 

cheers,

 

Ramo

[Giga]

So... did you win against the a$$hole eldar dude?

[tedwin183]

We ended up drawing. I'm really sorry to you, the reader, for not adding this part! I have a cold, I haven't been thinking clearly...

 

So we get to the top of 5 and this guy asks us if he can just roll for the 6th turn immediately. He knows the game is basically won by us. My teammate and I both kinda go "ehhhh..." and he goes: "Ok! I'm rolling it!" and he rolls a 1. So, he proceeds tell me that his 20 dire avengers are going to stand up to 2 TH/SS termies, 8 cc scouts, 5 with ccw/BP, 3 with Shotguns, Lysander, an Ironclad, 9 sternguard and 5 cc tac marines. Granted, not all of them were going to get into combat...but that's what we had headed right at their objective. He ended up jumping a group of warpspiders in the way of the avengers. I toasted them with Lysander's bolter drill on the 9 sternguard. Made room for my cc scouts to charge in. As they do, he laughs. I ask him what's so funny. He asks me if I seriously think I'm going to do anything with those scouts. I try to explain to him that these are not "cc" scouts, these are my "all-star" scouts. They've won me 6 of my last 9 games. He tells me he's going to dismantle them. Leaving the details of the dice rolling out...I'll just say he started with a smile...but wasn't so happy at the end...

 

So it comes down to bottom of the 5th, the termies, ironclad and scouts are in cc with 3 avengers. He makes some TOTAL ;cussruling about how defender works and claims everything gets one less attack. He gets really up in arms about. Now, I understand the ruling for defender...and the way he wanted it played was not correct. He was getting huffy about it and we decided to quiet the baby, so we took a die away from each termie and a die away from the ironclad (who had ironclad launchers...naturally aiding in this whole process...). We figured between the 3 remaining scouts, ironclad and termies we could kill 3 guys and then make a consolidation move within 3 inches of their objective, winning the game. His bad defender ruling ended up keeping ONE measely avenger in the fight, and since he rolled for the 6th turn hastily...we knew the game was a draw. He cheered and proclaimed how great the battle was. Meanwhile, my teammate and myself sort of felt like we got our D's slammed in a drawer. We completely dominated the game in every facet. We out-rolled them, we out maneuvered them, we had better tactics, we had better lists, we had better deployment. It's hard to win against cheese/a poor sport.

 

 

That would be my corollary tip of the week: I made a post about someone considering Ironclad launchers the other day. I take it back. In MOST cicumstances, the Ironclad launchers are really nice. Here's why:

 

My Chaos opponent from this double match learned from his mistakes last week (same thousand son player) and this time kept everything in cover, thinking the dread would get bogged down in cover and then once he charged in, he'd get to go first with krak grenades. Little did he know the Ironclad is AV13, so no krak grenades, moves through cover, so gets there just as fast as if he was walking out in the open and gets to go at his initiative. So that's the corollary tip of the week. Try to fit 1-2 ironclads in your list, especially if you like cc based lists or are playing a cc heavy opponent. I think you'll be really surprised with them if you haven't played them yet.

[tedwin183]

To the admins: I accept the congratulatory response and official warning with humility. Unfortunately, I don't go back and reread what I've written in hopes that I find some admin's revisions to my statements. It would probably be a lot more helpful for you, the admin, to make an actual post in the offending thread rather than a razor-thin grey text line at the bottom of the original offending post. Really, I JUST noticed it once you sent me that private message-warning-congratulatory-award-message-congratulations-warning and was curious as to what I had done to receive such accolades. Rest assured, though. I am an obedient Organ-grinder Monkey. It won't happen again.