Uprising Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Ok as you all know i was going to start dragon warriors but i then took a good look at the C:SM. I had notice that salamanders with He`stan did a better job at flamers and melta then chaos. Also i had AOBR lying around and paint in salamander color scheme. So i really didn`t want too very alike army, so i decide on Word Bearers. I test paint a model and it look awesome and it took me about 1 hr for 1 guy. I have a few questions about them, that i would like answered. 1. I want daemons in my army but can`t decide on which Greater Daemon or lesser to use. Is it legal to have like 5 bloodletters and 5 daemonette in a 10 man squad to represent undividle. 2. Do they use cult units like Plague marines and TS in there army. The reason am asking is because I HATE MEDAL MODELS and would like to custom build some count as models for this army. My ideas are For Zerkers-Equip them with two chainswords and remove the bunny ears. For Plague marines-Use chaos warrios shields to represent the T and feel no pain gain. For the TS, EC and obil i have no ideas how two reprenst them. I need help. Lastly here is my learning list Hq Prince-155pts Wings Warptime Troops 1 Champion with 9 marine-235pts IoCG power Weapon 2 Flamers Rhino 1 Champion with 9 marine-230pts IoCG 2 Melta-gun Rhino Heavy Defiler-150 Heavy Flamer 3 CC Weapons Summoned Daemon 1 Greater-100pts 10 Summoned lesser-130 Total- 1000pts Total tanks-3 Total people-34 Thanks for reading. Editing reason-Forgot a word. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162511-word-bearers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 1- you can use whatever combo of daemons you want as they are all generic and have the same stats. 2- a proper WB army does not have cult units b/c they see worshiping one god over another as incomplete. but if you wanted to custom build "brzrks" w/ 2 chainswords to represent the most fanantic of the fanantic WB's that would be ok, but remove all the khorne symbols as well as the bunny ears. As for the shields to represent "PM's", that's what I did in my BL army. Although I could have nurgle stuff in my BL army, I didn't want to, so I used the shields. The WB's don't worship nurgle (by himself) and would have no PM's , but they could have their own version of stormshields, xtra armor, a dark priest in the unit granting fnp kinda like a s/m apothacary. You could think up some fluff and modeling ideas for NM's or T'sons as well. - You list looks fine except for the GD, I'm just not a fan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162511-word-bearers/#findComment-1910060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyson_Vore Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 I would say that for the cult units, just use some of the gods color placed in a few places on the armor, and say that they follow that diety more closely than the others. It would make sense that out of a bunch of fanatic zealots that some would find affinity to one more than another. They had something like that in the Dark Apostle Novel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162511-word-bearers/#findComment-1910102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gree Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 It's mentioned in the IA for the Word Bearers that they reisist becoming a pawn of one god, however the Word Bearers have worked alongside other cult units of other legions before as allies and mercenaries. Also some units in the Word Bearers may be Undivided in name but they might deviate twords a single god. (Personally I think the icon system would represent that one better. However your Dark Apostle might be a bit of a heretic and allow some god-worship in his warband, out of sight of the main legion commanders of course Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162511-word-bearers/#findComment-1910122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra Bait Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 I regularly use Summoned Lesser Daemons in my army lists and I love them! CSM are too awesome in CC to sit around and park on an objective- mine are usually moving into enemy territory to fight and contest other objectives. Having cheap scoring units that aren't a slouch in CC either give me flexibility to hang onto objectives on my side of the board or help out the beakies in a scrap. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162511-word-bearers/#findComment-1910250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Do you mean that you use daemons to stay at home and hold objectives ?? If so, I hadn't thought of that. When I use Daemons they are to lend xtra attacks in hth or to screan T'sons. but leaving them on a home objective could be good, esp. if there is terain there to hide them out of sight so they could not be shot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162511-word-bearers/#findComment-1910400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uprising Posted March 7, 2009 Author Share Posted March 7, 2009 Thank you for the advice everyone. I just have a few more question to ask. 1. Basing(My least favor part of the hobby, beside cost) I can do jungle, deserst and lava but that not word bearers like. I would like to know how to do like warp like bases or something else. Any ideas? 2. How do i built a Dark Apostle? In game maybe a Soc or lord. 3. Here my ideas so far for cult units A-Zerkers with all khorne symbols removed and 2 ccw and no bunny ears B-Plague Marines unit will be Marines with Chaos Warriors Shields C-TS unit will be a Soc teaching rookies soc the way of battle. D-EC no ideas yet :mellow: E-Obil no ideas yet ;) 4. Are possessed any good? Any ideas? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162511-word-bearers/#findComment-1911280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyson_Vore Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Well, starting from the bottom. E: You could use fantasy Ogres and just have them loaded with guns. D: Use alot of ornate style weaponry, vox units and sonic weapons, and that should work Just my ideas, hope they help Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162511-word-bearers/#findComment-1912035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teivel Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 As far as the performance of the possessed in-game I can not say. In terms of fluff, it would be very likely that the warriors who have been "blessed" would be fielded. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162511-word-bearers/#findComment-1913770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Disciple Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 1. Basing(My least favor part of the hobby, beside cost) I can do jungle, deserst and lava but that not word bearers like. I would like to know how to do like warp like bases or something else. Any ideas?2. How do i built a Dark Apostle? In game maybe a Soc or lord. 3. Here my ideas so far for cult units A-Zerkers with all khorne symbols removed and 2 ccw and no bunny ears B-Plague Marines unit will be Marines with Chaos Warriors Shields C-TS unit will be a Soc teaching rookies soc the way of battle. D-EC no ideas yet :unsure: E-Obil no ideas yet ;) 4. Are possessed any good? hmm well for the first one it was said in the IA that during the heresy the Wrod Bearers advaced over a sea of dead cultists with their feet never touching the ground. 2 - In game you can use anaything, Kikkala (Word Bearers painting and modeling god) has converted an Apostle to count as Khârn. My own Crusade is led by a Warlord called the Arbiter who counts as Huron. You dont have to have an Apostle if you dont want to. 3 - A is good, My vision of Word Bearer Berserkers is along the lines of the Sisters Repenta ;) B sounds good, you could also throw in some bionics for added effect. C Holy rounds blessed by the Apostle and lead by his First Acolyte? D I'm not too sure, sorry E Obliterators are wandering Mercinaries in the fluff, though the Word Bearers do have a Forge World (Ghalmek) as one of their home worlds. 4 - Most people will say no but I like them even if they are a bit pricey. Hope that helps and that the Dark Gods bless you and your host. Death to the False God Brother! Disciple Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162511-word-bearers/#findComment-1914984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mordray Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 EC could be represented by marines carrying vox casters into battle as their job is to spread the word to the unbelievers and the best way to do that is to have the word be the last thing they ever hear... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162511-word-bearers/#findComment-1915572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razhbad Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Possessed would be fine, after all they are a bunch of Chaos Religeous nuts so powering themselves up with Deamons is fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162511-word-bearers/#findComment-1919281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uprising Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 Sorry for the no update for a week , i been really busy lately. The good news, i figure out how to do the basing for my world bearers and have 2.5 models done. :P I been working on some cult fluff and wouldlike yor opinions. Hunters(Plague Marine) The Role of a Hunter Marine is a simple but important role. There job is to find dark relics and guard th oject till it can be safely transported out of dangerous areas. In a fight, hunters are more of a defended role because they use giant shields to defend the positions from hositle forces. Modellng-CSM with Chaos warriors shields. Zealots(Zerkers) Zealots are crazed worshippers of the gods. It is said that their are given visons from the gods(Mostly Khorne) and they go berzerks, charging into the enemeis of chaos. Modelling-khorne symbols removed and 2 ccw and no bunny ears Lastly how do you name chaos people? the bad news I was on dakka-dakka just veiwing some list and someone said that there making the DP Daemon codex only, is this right? Dark Disciple-I was viewing your blog and was wonder if i could steal your defiler idea. Would you mine? Sorry for the typo, my keyboard acting funny. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162511-word-bearers/#findComment-1927597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelias Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 nothing at all stopping you from using the new DP model in a codex CSM army. get your bits box out to make it more futuristic if it doesn't have CSM options in the box :P i'm sure officially or not it with be a welcomed addition for both codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162511-word-bearers/#findComment-1927610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Disciple Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Go for it, theres quite a few things you do with a defiler though. Look in the Khorne section for the slaughterfiend thread that thing is amazing! Daemon Princes are in our codex and thats not going to change. Their just better in the Daemon Codex. The zealot idea is good I'll be doing penitant sister repenta style marines for my Berserkers. Cant wait to see your ideas. Disciple Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162511-word-bearers/#findComment-1928183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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