Rommel44 Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Hey, quick question. While looking through the New Space Marine Codex, I was just wondering if can we take the Land Raider Redeemer as a transport vehicle or is it even worth it and should I just stick to the Land Raider Crusader. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Last Sa i just tried the Redeemer with my Salamanders and i can say it´s a killer. First he does what he was there for: he delivered my 6 Assault Terminators into CC and then he started to burn away enemy units stupid enough to get too close. On 2+ everyone with T4 and 3+ armour save under the templates is dead, no cover save, no armour save, simple dead. It was amazing. 10 Dire Avangers all dead with a single template. Same with a unit of Striking Scorpions. I think i will give more often a try in the future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1913574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icewolf Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 As I understand we can take all vechicles in the marine codex but as to whcih land raider to take I would say the crusader as that is my personal favouate but it is your army and your choice also I have no real experencee of land raiders so cannot really say Icewolf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1913575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logain the Ranger Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 We can take a Redeemer, though I prefer a standard Raider. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1913591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 This topic has been discussed (I think it's under the title "I have extra money so what land raider to get" or something like that), and yes we can take the variant land raiders, and honestly the crusader has always been the choice land raider for many a wolf lord. Better capacity, supporting firepower, enhanced assaults (frag launchers), it just seems like the right one for the job all the time. Granted the other two are useful as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1913618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Really there is no wrong Land Raider to take, the trick is how to build your list around it. How can you go wrong with a heavy weapon toting, machine spirit driven, TDA/PA transporting, 14 armored behemoth. So take the one you want or have the model for and then start tweaking your list around that choice. If you wish there are many grey hairs around here that would be glad to help you with that if your so inclined. WG Vrox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1913623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF4i Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I almost always use my LRC, with 16 capacity and the nature of it, works really well with 15 blood claws and an HQ(normally Priest). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1913631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneSniperSG Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 This topic has been discussed (I think it's under the title "I have extra money so what land raider to get" or something like that), and yes we can take the variant land raiders, and honestly the crusader has always been the choice land raider for many a wolf lord. Better capacity, supporting firepower, enhanced assaults (frag launchers), it just seems like the right one for the job all the time. Granted the other two are useful as well. We don't get Power of the Machine spirit, default or not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1913670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF4i Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 This topic has been discussed (I think it's under the title "I have extra money so what land raider to get" or something like that), and yes we can take the variant land raiders, and honestly the crusader has always been the choice land raider for many a wolf lord. Better capacity, supporting firepower, enhanced assaults (frag launchers), it just seems like the right one for the job all the time. Granted the other two are useful as well. We don't get Power of the Machine spirit, default or not. Why not? We reference the SM Codex for point cost and rules, which including Land Raiders. This is a special rule for Land Raiders in the SM Codex... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1913692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ra1stl1n Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 This topic has been discussed (I think it's under the title "I have extra money so what land raider to get" or something like that), and yes we can take the variant land raiders, and honestly the crusader has always been the choice land raider for many a wolf lord. Better capacity, supporting firepower, enhanced assaults (frag launchers), it just seems like the right one for the job all the time. Granted the other two are useful as well. We don't get Power of the Machine spirit, default or not. Our raiders are just the same as codex: space marines so we DO get PotMS for our raiders which is nice ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1913747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 We don't get Power of the Machine spirit, default or not. ummm, yes we do, it's built into the Land Raider... To the OP, I love the Redeemer. those big fat AP3 templates that ignore cover are rather wonderful. LRC obviously have the extra space going for it and the standard LR is great if you're expecting lots of armour. If bring one of my LRs, I'll usually put Ragnar+Grey Hunters in it, in which case the extra space in the LRC doesn't matter anyway... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1913759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Look at you list and figure out what you're lacking, then pick the LR to fill that gap. In my case, I don't have a lot of anti-tank in my list and I don't field units of 15 blood claws. So I picked the standard variant. Enough capacity to carry the troops and lascannons to take down enemy tanks ... hole filled. A lot of SW like the Crusader, and I can't disagree. Fifteen blood claws charging out of a landraider with an HQ is just something nasty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1913761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...p;hl=Landraider Thats the thread from when I asked a similar question. Personally unless your army is lacking alot of anti-tank I prefer the crusader over the godhammer. As for the new redeemer class, well I dont know about it. Im not a fan of flamer sponsons on a tank. I do like the stats on the redeemers flamers, but its hard to consider for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1913782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 This topic has been discussed (I think it's under the title "I have extra money so what land raider to get" or something like that), and yes we can take the variant land raiders, and honestly the crusader has always been the choice land raider for many a wolf lord. Better capacity, supporting firepower, enhanced assaults (frag launchers), it just seems like the right one for the job all the time. Granted the other two are useful as well. We don't get Power of the Machine spirit, default or not. Sorry I don't understand where this came from, but I think the other's helped with the PotmS so I won't talk about it. The LRC is just the optimal one to go for, yes BT can claim the extra room for their neophites, but we can fill it with blood claws and an HQ, or a smaller squad with HQ and wolves...or powerhouse it with an HQ and WGBG all in TDA. Today I will face a 4 land Raider list, and I'll let you know how each did and which I thought was the best (2 LR red, 1 LR reg, 1 LRC). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1913803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Personally unless your army is lacking alot of anti-tank I prefer the crusader over the godhammer. As for the new redeemer class, well I dont know about it. Im not a fan of flamer sponsons on a tank. I do like the stats on the redeemers flamers, but its hard to consider for me. Try it the next time you're facing a list with lots of 3+ saves. I've used mine incredibly successfully agains Chaos marines and Eldar. It's brutal, and it's worth it just to watch my friends cry the first time they play against it :tu: Today I will face a 4 land Raider list, and I'll let you know how each did and which I thought was the best (2 LR red, 1 LR reg, 1 LRC). Crikey, how many points is the game? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1913815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Durendal Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Personally I love my LRC loaded with 13-15BCs and a Wolf Lord. I find the LRC is really the jack of all trades LR. And what I mean by that is that it has a reasonably devent chance of knocking out troops AND vehicles. Use the TLAC and Hurries to knock out the little gribblies n then go vehicle hunting with the MM. Or, if you're in need of AT, use the TLAC to hit vehicles. I think I've sunk more vehicles with the TLAC than the MM, primarily b/c it's harder to get in the 12" range where the MM excels. At 24", the AC can figuratively reach out and touch someone. My best moment, was I was facing a marine player with a regular LR. After 2 rounds of both of us advancing or behemoths toward one another in the greatest showdown ever (all the while failing to kill each other), I was finally w/in 12" and the MM failed (miserably I might add. I have horrible luck with my melta weapons. I digress), so I went to the TLAC. 4 hits, 2 rends, and I believe I rolled 1 pen and 1 glance. And after rolling damage, that LR was a smoking wreck :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1913911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ra1stl1n Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Its really deheartening to see your raider broken by serious sam's weapon :( but ye TLAC rocks. For the raider i'd say for the first one go with whatever you lack... its AT get a godhammer,its your giant squad of blood claws getting hammered get a crusader,is a gunline your problem? go redeemer and hope you'll reach them :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1913987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Today I will face a 4 land Raider list, and I'll let you know how each did and which I thought was the best (2 LR red, 1 LR reg, 1 LRC). Crikey, how many points is the game? 1750, and I lost needless to say, no way I was going to take them out unless I'm 6"... his army was his 4 landraiders and unless I used my eldar I wasn't going to win with my SW list. Good thing he was just doing it to have fun... Oh and against me, the redeemers did nicely, no cover and AP3 showed me why orks cringe at regular flamers... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1914447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF4i Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 4 LR List, *shudder* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1914456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 *Spreads hands* so a squad of termies to get the dedicated one, two tac squads and a captain? I suppose with 5 man squads that leaves you with 270pts.... but seriously. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1914776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 *Spreads hands* so a squad of termies to get the dedicated one, two tac squads and a captain? I suppose with 5 man squads that leaves you with 270pts.... but seriously. That WAS his army... and you guys know my list, I'm lucky to have anything that shoots over 24", only until 6" do my meltas become effective enough against AV14. Anyways he won't be using the list competitively, because it's not competitive, he just wanted to have some fun with the wolves after I've beaten his orks over and over again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1914970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Last Sa i just tried the Redeemer with my Salamanders and i can say it´s a killer. First he does what he was there for: he delivered my 6 Assault Terminators into CC and then he started to burn away enemy units stupid enough to get too close. On 2+ everyone with T4 and 3+ armour save under the templates is dead, no cover save, no armour save, simple dead. It was amazing. 10 Dire Avangers all dead with a single template. Same with a unit of Striking Scorpions. I think i will give more often a try in the future. agreed, the Redeemer is amazing. Played against Eldar recently and my Wolves had a nice afternoon with beer and BBQ :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1915264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rommel44 Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 Well, since a lot of people have tried it and from the sounds of it, done amazing, might as well give it a shot ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162798-which-land-raider/#findComment-1917911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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