Durfast Spiritwolf Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I've avoided TDA in the past because I'm a big fan of GHs and BCs and lots of them. However, I've just started a squad of six that will form Logan's WG: Logan WGBG: TH, SS WGBG: TH, SS WGBG: LC WGBG: LC WGBG: cyclone launcher and PF (and SB but this is to act as a targeter until new guidance) WGBG: AC and PF charms and necklaces as necessary/points available Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1916189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Hengist Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I fielded this set up last night:- WGBL, AssCannon, Frost Blade WG1, Asscannon, Chainfist WG2 Asscannon, Chainfist WG3 Plasma/Bolter, Power Sword WG4 Plasma/Bolter, Power Fist All with Runic Charms and Wolf Pelts and deployed in a drop pod. It is the second time I have used this set up and I must say I am not that impressed with all the Assault Cannon shots. I had a previous set up with one Assault cannon and a CML the rest had Combiplasma guns which seemed to do a better job for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1916204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 *shrugs* Ive had five wolf gaurd terminators, one being a battle leader enter play via drop pod and down a dark eldar raider... and then face the shooting of 2k of tau *all suits and firewarriors, though not at rapid fire range with the fire warriors* and 2 units of DE warriors, and then get assaulted by 3 units of 9 wyches, an archon, and his retinue of 10. The proceeded to take all of it and the WGBl died last to the archons retinue. Without a single stormshield. I take 3x Assault cannons, and theyve yet to let me down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1916249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Durendal Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Indeed yor right about the Frags brother! Whew just saved me some points... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1916340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 i field the same setup regardless of who i play and that is; Wolf Lord, terminator armour, m.c thunder hammer, storm shied, wolf tail talisman, wolf tooth necklace, runic charm 4 bodyguard with terminator armour, thuder hammer, storm shield, runic charm, wolf tooth necklace and wolf tail talisman and when i eventually get round to buying a drop pod for them they'll be slung in that Andy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1916351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF4i Posted March 14, 2009 Author Share Posted March 14, 2009 Ahhh, so I was in a particularly fun mood and decided to go off the wall with this one and make a TH/SS dude that you won't see anywhere else... http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff178/JEFF4i017/Termies3.jpg Termy obviously from AoBR, which made it a little easier, but gonna have to wolfy him up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1916987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 looks pretty cool jeff4i, is that a power lance or thunder hammer, can't see the end of it end the picture. Can't wait to see him all painted up. WG Vrox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1917251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rommel44 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 I posted this somewhere else, but I was planning to try this out this weekend. *Wolf Lord: -w/Frost Blade, SB, TA, Wolf Pelt, Wolf-Tooth Necklace, Belt of Russ *(2x) Wolf Guard -w/TA, PF, Assault Cannons, Wolf Pelt, Runic Charm *(3x) Wolf Guard w/TA, PW, SB, Wolf Pelt, Runic Charm And this squad will be running in a Land Raider Redeemer w/Multi-Melta. Fairly cheap and hopefully effective. What do ya think Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1923778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoll Mooneater Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I think that a lord in terminator armour is not allowed to have the belt of Russ. Better give him a storm shield instead of the SB. And by that you have a 20 points cheaper terminator squad. Perhaps change the PF of the assault cannon termies with a TH? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1925228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambu Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Just my take on how I field my squad: Wolf Lord: TDA, frost blade, storm shield, wolf tooth necklace and wolf pelt Wolf Guard 1: pair of lightening claws, wolf tooth necklace and wolf pelt Wolf Guard 2: pair of lightening claws, wolf tooth necklace and wolf pelt Wolf Guard 3: assult cannon, powersword, wolf tooth necklace and wolf pelt Wolf Guard 4: assult cannon, powersword, wolf tooth necklace and wolf pelt A little pricey but has worked very well for myself. They have punch ,assult quality and work well out of a land raider. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1926006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 My retinue: 1x Assault Cannon and Chainfist 1x Assault Cannon and Lightning Claw 2x Combi-Plas and Lightning Claw All get Runic Charms, and the unit typically deploys with the HQ choice via Drop Pod. If I wasn't playing against a MEQ army, then I would save some points and just go with Storm Bolters instead of Combi-Plasmas for those last two guys. The single Chainfist (or Power Fist or Thunder Hammer) is necessary to defeat vehicles, walkers, or any high Toughness opponents you might run into. The Lightning Claws are better than Power Weapons with the re-roll to wound, but still allow 3 of these guys to go in Initiative order. Considering changes in 5th edition, I might think about trading the second Assault Cannon for a Heavy Flamer if I were using a Drop Pod, since that would get me in close. I would never ever take the Flamer without some kind of Transport, though. I've got several options for the HQ element that this Retinue would go with. One of my favorites is good old Ragnar, who is a close combat monster, and would grant everyone his Berserk Charge. I've also got a WGBL in Terminator Armour with Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield, that I might use for fun. I've also got a Rune Priest in Terminator Armour, but I'll wait to see what he looks like in the 5th edition Space Wolves codex before I use him. Lastly, I could bring a Wolf Priest with Healing Potions and Balms to make the unit even more survivable. Wolf Guard in TDA may be expensive, but they are so much more tailorable than any other chapter's Terminators that it is almost an even trade. Regards, Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1926560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF4i Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 I took yesterday: Logan (actually Logan this time, since it was 4k points) 2 Dual Lightning Claw 2 Assault Cannon w/Powerfists 1 Storm Shield/Thunder Hammer All told, they killed 43 units. Oh yeah...soo worth it. My thoughts? Runic Charms are the single most important part of it all. HOWEVER, I'm thinking instead of fielding a normal Lord for smaller games, a Wolf Priest with Healing/Balms could be absolutely killer, I mean it would take forever for them to die! Not that it didn't anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1926985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfside Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 heres a thought, chuck in the wolf priest as an IC with the Lord and 4 bodyguard in a dp? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1927684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF4i Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 That would be pretty nasty, except then Healing and Balms would become meh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1927716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeffWolf Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Hmmm, thats a difficult one. i usually now go with 5 wolf guard bodyguard for my wolf lord, or at least i used to until i started crimson fists. i have a points cost written below: 5x Wolf Guard Bodyguard 125 2x Assault Cannon 40 1x Heavy Flamer 10 2x Pair of Lightning claws 40 3x Chainfist 60 5x Bionics 25 = 310pts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1928520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoll Mooneater Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Hmmm, thats a difficult one. i usually now go with 5 wolf guard bodyguard for my wolf lord, or at least i used to until i started crimson fists. i have a points cost written below: 5x Wolf Guard Bodyguard 125 2x Assault Cannon 40 1x Heavy Flamer 10 2x Pair of Lightning claws 40 3x Chainfist 60 5x Bionics 25 = 310pts. Hmmm...First of all you can't have 2 assault cannons and a heavy flamer for 5 wolfguard. You can have 2 heavy weapons and you wrote 3. And second you forgot the terminator armor cost. So its 5x5=25 points for the TDA minus one heavy weapon i am afraid you have to replace. And why have bionics and not runic charms? Same cost and much more efficient the RC if you ask me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1928735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 If he had a WGBL in the pack, he could since WGBL's can take heavy weapons. But I don't think he did, from the way he wrote it it sounded like it was just 5 normal Wolf Guard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1928795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoll Mooneater Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 If he had a WGBL in the pack, he could since WGBL's can take heavy weapons. But I don't think he did, from the way he wrote it it sounded like it was just 5 normal Wolf Guard. I thought the same but if one of the assault cannons was appointed to WGBL then one of the Wolfguard would be equipped with only one chainfist. (which is odd) And by the way to all the above, in what battles do you use your termie wolfguards? Personally, i would not field termies in a battle less than 2k. Our troops choices cost high enough and now with the new objectives i think you should have 3 troops units to secure the objectives... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1928822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacsoy Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 If he had a WGBL in the pack, he could since WGBL's can take heavy weapons. But I don't think he did, from the way he wrote it it sounded like it was just 5 normal Wolf Guard. Can you field a WGBG unit without an IC? I mean, the above unit is not legal (regardless the heavy weapons issue), right? Edit: Sorry, I didn't read carefully enough and didn't see they were acting as a WL's retinue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1928826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I tend to run a well-equipped TDA bodyguard in 2000pts- any less and I won't usually run a pack. But if I do, I'll go: 4 WGBG TDA, 2 AC, 2PW 2 SB, 2PF Drop Pod Relatively cheap, it's my favorite way of getting 3 AC in the midst of the enemy army. Edit: He mentioned above that it accompanies his Wolf Lord. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1928828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoll Mooneater Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 If he had a WGBL in the pack, he could since WGBL's can take heavy weapons. But I don't think he did, from the way he wrote it it sounded like it was just 5 normal Wolf Guard. Can you field a WGBG unit without an IC? I mean, the above unit is not legal (regardless the heavy weapons issue), right? No you can't. The above wolf guards must be assigned to an IC. Edit: Didacsoy you are forgiven :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1928830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoll Mooneater Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I tend to run a well-equipped TDA bodyguard in 2000pts- any less and I won't usually run a pack. But if I do, I'll go: 4 WGBG TDA, 2 AC, 2PW 2 SB, 2PF Drop Pod Relatively cheap, it's my favorite way of getting 3 AC in the midst of the enemy army. Edit: He mentioned above that it accompanies his Wolf Lord. :tu: If i would run a "shooty" pack of wolfguards that would be exactly my choice, only that i would add runic charms and have a Wolf Priest with HP&B to be with them. I still remember the mumbling of an orc player who was shooting them all he had and they were simply refusing to fell. The ultimate "tank" (MMO speaking :) ) unit ever! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1928841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I keep seeing AC, AC, AC If you all have not tried 3 CML, do yourself a favor and give it a try. Here is all you need as they will usually not see close combat, no need for a drop pod or LR just camp out in the middle of the table and Let loose the grey geese. WGBL CML PW WG CML PF TDA / RC WG CML PW TDA / RC WG SS/SB TDA / RC WG SS/SB TDA / RC WG Vrox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1928950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF4i Posted March 26, 2009 Author Share Posted March 26, 2009 You know what? I just had an epiphany...WOLF PRIEST IN TDA! It makes perfect sense. He'll be decently cheap, still get A4, 10 Leadership, and if you only use Healings and Balms once the entire game, it'll pay for itself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1931378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Hmmm, thats a difficult one. i usually now go with 5 wolf guard bodyguard for my wolf lord, or at least i used to until i started crimson fists. i have a points cost written below: 5x Wolf Guard Bodyguard 125 2x Assault Cannon 40 1x Heavy Flamer 10 2x Pair of Lightning claws 40 3x Chainfist 60 5x Bionics 25 = 310pts. Hmmm...First of all you can't have 2 assault cannons and a heavy flamer for 5 wolfguard. You can have 2 heavy weapons and you wrote 3. And second you forgot the terminator armor cost. So its 5x5=25 points for the TDA minus one heavy weapon i am afraid you have to replace. And why have bionics and not runic charms? Same cost and much more efficient the RC if you ask me. I should say theyre more efficient, after all Bionics dont even have any rules anymore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/162842-your-terminators/page/2/#findComment-1931440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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