Sons of Horus Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 for Mortarion you mean Manreaper and Lantern :) Horus: Talon of Horus, Power Maul, Golden Sword, and Bolter (the sword and bolter are from False Gods p.63 I think) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2228732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Lysander Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Also, artworks may occassionally clash with the fluff. Pictures do not always show all the weapons they use in their arsenals. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2228758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 for Mortarion you mean Manreaper and Lantern :) Horus: Talon of Horus, Power Maul, Golden Sword, and Bolter (the sword and bolter are from False Gods p.63 I think) @Sons of Horus. Cheers. Forgot that he named it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2229199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nethoras Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Though many of the primarchs had legendary weapons, it doesnt mean they were the only weapon they used, Ferrus manus for example is portrayed going over a veritable armoury of weapons before the dropsite massacre, one such weapon being a bolter gifted to him by Vulkan that he didnt take out much as he was never one for ranged combat. Ferrus manus would have been armed with a variety of weapons, but yes he most certainly did have a rather spectacular hammer named forgebreaker crafter by Fulgrim that he was quite fond of and appears to have used for the majority of his battles after its forging Vulkan being a smith by trade spent much of his spare time crafting weapons, and I would assume much of his time in battle testing them out, Vulkan crafted and weilded a plethora of weapons, in fact his chapter still searches the galaxy for his master crafted weaponry and wargear in the 41st millenia. The Lion is one of the few primarchs cited as always carrying a specific weapon, the lion sword, along with this he often carried a bolt pistol or concievably a combat/storm shield. Alpharion/omegan were not partial to pageantry, and were usually amed in a similar fashion to a standard astates Mortarion is another primarch who was very partial to certain armaments namely his scythe manreaper and the lantern which is described as an "energy pistol" Leman Russ Would have most likely taken up a variety of armaments though he was cited as making a frostblade from the teeth of a kraken, and didnt care much for his most famous weapon the spear of russ, which he only carried to please the emperor who gifted the spear to russ. Angron is a primarch who most certainly used a variety of weapons, seeming to prefer the brutality of humungous chain weapons over more sophisticated power weapons, his most famous weapon is his titanic chain glaive but he is often seen weilding a pair of chain axes amongst other weapons, even a plasma or perhaps inferno pistol in one piece of concept art Fulgrim Generally used Fireblade the sword crafted by Ferrus manus, until his discovery of the laeran sword after which he seemed quite bonded to the strange weapon Horus is seen using a number of weapons, in his loyalist days he had a fondness for an exceptional power sword given to him by the emperor and bolt weapons, as his legion transformed he most certainly used at least one power claw known as the talon of horus, and generally the fluff says that he wore a pair of these, but because of some famous artwork he's commonly conceied as wearing only one and weilding a power maul in the other hand. Perturabo really hasnt had much said as to his personality and preferances, however what is known about him leads him to be portrayed with armaments similar to a techmarine (servo harness) along with a long handled power/thunder hammer. he later on was granted forgebreaker by horus after fulgrim had taken it back from ferrus manus. Jaghatai khan is portrayed as using either a spear or a sabre as would be practical for mounted combat, considering his nature its doubtful he was ever particulararily attached to any specific weapon Rogal Dorn Is shown once as having a rather huge bolt pistol along with a rather gigantic chainsword, considering his gigantic stature (even for a primarch) its entirely possible these were the only weapons that were large enough and of a high enough quality for rogal dorn to use, but chances are he also had somewhat of a variety in his arsenal. Sanguinus Is almost always portrayed as having a golden flaming/glowing power sword but he had the spear of telesto in his possession at some point, assumedly he chose between the 2 weapons according to his humour, or they were part of a much larger armory. Guilliman most certainly carried a gladius style power sword with him at all times, but the gauntlets have contradictory evidence (I once read that marneus slew the champion of chaos to get the gauntlets and they were never worn by guilliman) but pretty much every source agrees that marneus slew a champion of chaos and then wore the gauntlets of ultramar. Magnus the red is generally portrayed weilding a staff or some form of bladed polearm, its entirely possible he had a large array of polearms all of which had different warp affinities or hexagramic patterns. Lorgar being the most steadfast beileiver in the chaplain institution is generally portrayed with a crozius aquillam ( they had a different name pre heresy for some reason), or in some cases a power sword. after the heresy he most certainly carried about an accursed crozius to signify his dark apostlehood Corax had a pair of lightening claws that now adorn kayvaan shrikes hands, these seem like suitable weapons for Corax however its uncertain what his preferred tool of melee Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2230441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Guilliman most certainly carried a gladius style power sword with him at all times, but the gauntlets have contradictory evidence (I once read that marneus slew the champion of chaos to get the gauntlets and they were never worn by guilliman) but pretty much every source agrees that marneus slew a champion of chaos and then wore the gauntlets of ultramar. Roboute Guilliman slew a Chaos Champion and RECLAIMED the Gauntlets Of Ultramar from him during the Gamalia Reclusiam Massacre. Reclusiam = a shrine/temple/sacred place where relics are stored. As far as we know, Guilliman wielded the Sword Of Guilliman and Gauntlets Of Ultramar (same as Marneus Calgar). What else he used is unknown. I would presume typical Roman weapons (gladius, pugio, pilum, tower shield, etc) or Greek weapons (xiphos, aspis, etc), along with Bolters, Bolt Pistols, Plasma Pistols and such. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2230583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvilarium Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Rogal Dorn Is shown once as having a rather huge bolt pistol along with a rather gigantic chainsword, considering his gigantic stature (even for a primarch) its entirely possible these were the only weapons that were large enough and of a high enough quality for rogal dorn to use, but chances are he also had somewhat of a variety in his arsenal. According to the first Soul Drinkers novel, Rogal Dorn also owned the Soulspear, a double bladed energy weapon (similar to that wielded by Darth Maul in the Phantom Menace), but with blades formed of jet black warp energy. The weapon was genetically activated (by taking a blood sample from the wielder's finger) and would let of a huge warp detonation if anyone other than Dorn or one of his Astartes tried to activate it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2230759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sensei Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Hmmm the drawing with MF and its wrench (ridiculous idea IMHO) depicts fulgrim and not sanguinius I think, and its far more logical according to the fluff. Talking about sanguinius, where is it written that his sword was ablaze ? I've seen illustrations with a dark red sword but never a flaming one. Finally in the fulgrim MM book, corax is depicted with a pair of claws if my memory is good (souds a bit repetitive with nighthaunter but well...) Last tip about horus, he is described in a HH book (do not remember wich one) having some kind of a cristal made pistol at his beltside... Sounds like an auld V1 Neuro-disruptor to me... Strange, isn't it ? DS Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2231055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Tbh, Ben Counter stares into the face of gw fluff and ****s its sister. I would take anything he writes with a fistful of salt. Rogal Dorn definetely wielded a power sword on the Warmaster's battle barge tho-Codex BT Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2235322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantDaKiller Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Corax wields a sword and a whip in the audiobook Ravens Flight. And a predators turret at one point, and an Iron Warriors arm which was holding a chainsword at the time.............. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2243807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 .Last tip about horus, he is described in a HH book (do not remember wich one) having some kind of a cristal made pistol at his beltside... Sounds like an auld V1 Neuro-disruptor to me... Strange, isn't it ? DS This was in The Flight of the Eisenstein. the pistol was described as "appearing to have been made from glass". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2244338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trel Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 According to the first Soul Drinkers novel, Rogal Dorn also owned the Soulspear, a double bladed energy weapon (similar to that wielded by Darth Maul in the Phantom Menace), but with blades formed of jet black warp energy. The weapon was genetically activated (by taking a blood sample from the wielder's finger) and would let of a huge warp detonation if anyone other than Dorn or one of his Astartes tried to activate it. Soul Drinkers? Never heard of 'em. <_< Dorn was a pretty uncreative guy, he was probably just fine with a Bolt Pistol and a Chainsword. I'm not sure, but I think the Black Templars have Dorn's Power Sword. Dorn teleported onto Horus' Battle-barge with the Emperor, Sanguinius, some extra Fists, but not before he turned to Sigismund, handed him his sword and told him that Sigismund is the Emperor's Champion now. Does that sound familiar to anyone else? I can't remember where (or if) I read that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2245077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Proteus Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Corax wields a sword and a whip in the audiobook Ravens Flight. And a predators turret at one point, and an Iron Warriors arm which was holding a chainsword at the time.............. Awesomeness. I HAVE to get that book! And yes, to clarify about the Raven's Talons, I quote the 4th edition Codex: Space Marines, Pg. 46 (Shrike entry.) "The Raven's Talons: Said to have been crafted by Corax himself on Deliverance after the Istvaan V massacre..." So yeah, he used other things before the dropsite massacre. -Proteus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2246891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 And yes, to clarify about the Raven's Talons, I quote the 4th edition Codex: Space Marines, Pg. 46 (Shrike entry.) "The Raven's Talons: Said to have been crafted by Corax himself on Deliverance after the Istvaan V massacre..." So yeah, he used other things before the dropsite massacre. -Proteus CRAFTED. Does NOT say wielded. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2246937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koremu Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Regarding Horus; I don't have the Space Wolf Codex to hand, but isn't there as section where it's heavily implied at least that the Talons were a gift from Russ to Horus when Legion 16 was still the Luna Wolves? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2246953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvilarium Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Tbh, Ben Counter stares into the face of gw fluff and ****s its sister. I would take anything he writes with a fistful of salt. Rogal Dorn definetely wielded a power sword on the Warmaster's battle barge tho-Codex BT Soul Drinkers? Never heard of 'em. :) Dorn was a pretty uncreative guy, he was probably just fine with a Bolt Pistol and a Chainsword. Each to their own. I was just trying to be helpful and add to the information here.. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2247243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjørn eirik Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I think this discussion will just go on and on. GW should just put up a list whit each primarchs weapons, and declare this to be official :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2248502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 @Urza, I wasn't getting at you, just Ben Counter. I wasn't saying that you were wrong, just that we shouldn't always trust Ben C :-D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2251112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvilarium Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 @Urza, I wasn't getting at you, just Ben Counter. I wasn't saying that you were wrong, just that we shouldn't always trust Ben C :-D Understood, but when people are comparing one GW-approved work of fiction against another equally approved work of fiction, it gets pretty hard for anyone to make solid judgement as to which is true and which is false. The concept of doing such is laughable at best - especially when you consider how many retcons, rewrites and revisions GW has made to the 40k history since I started collecting in 1989! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2251690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Draco Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 What did Night Haunter use? i understood it was ether lightning claws, a sword or his bare hands. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2279635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 What did Night Haunter use? i understood it was ether lightning claws, a sword or his bear hands. Bear hands? Did the bear consent to him using its hands? :drool: I think he just used whatever came to hand really. Bare hands is the safest bet though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2279663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 The Dark Tower audiobook mention Curze killing a bunch, but I don't remember the weapon he used. I remember he used some enemies' blades against them at some point, but I'm not sure if he was barehanded before that. And about Ferrus, if I had a Wrench of that size, I would never fight barehanded in my life :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2281347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 What did Night Haunter use? i understood it was ether lightning claws, a sword or his bare hands. What did Night Haunter use? i understood it was ether lightning claws, a sword or his bear hands. Bear hands? Did the bear consent to him using its hands? :) I think he just used whatever came to hand really. Bare hands is the safest bet though The Dark Tower audiobook mention Curze killing a bunch, but I don't remember the weapon he used. I remember he used some enemies' blades against them at some point, but I'm not sure if he was barehanded before that. And about Ferrus, if I had a Wrench of that size, I would never fight barehanded in my life :( From Page 2 of this thread: What weapon did Night Haunter use?His hands is the most commonly described, though he would use whatever was available to him, like for example the glaive/halberd he took from a slain Phoenix Guard in the short-story: The Dark King. He also used his Psychic Powers there. (yes!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2281352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 13th Goat Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Lets see if i remember this... Dorn: The Hammer of Dorn (currently weilded by Lysander) Guillimen: Guantlets of Ultramar (post heresy) Lion: Lion's Sword (Cypher has it) Sang: Blade Ecarmine (Blood Angles Omnibus) Russ: Spear Of Russ (Space Wolf omnibus) Vulkan: Spear Of Vulkan (He'stan) Corax: Power claws (Guess?) Khan: A Spear(Guess?) Mannus: Falcion sword, then Forgebreaker (Fulgrim) Horus: Talon Of Horus, Big Mace (Galaxy In Flames, Collected Visions, Abaddon has it) Night Huanter: Night Talons (Zso Sahaal has them) Angron: Gorechild and Gorefather (Battle for the Abyss, Khârn the betreyer has it) Magnus: Staff of Magnus (Guess?) Fulgrim: Forgebreaker, then Lear Sword (Fulgrim) Mortarion: Manreaper, lantern (Flight Of The Eisentein) Logar: Cursed Acronzium (Collected Visions) Perturabo: Spear, then Forgebreaker (after Horus gifts it, which i subsequently stolen back after heresy by Iron Hands) Alpharius: standard weapons load out, to blend in. (Guess?) I think.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2282115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David the Despoiler Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Dorn actually uses a sword, the Sword of Dorn. The Black Templars currently have a shard of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2282131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astalon Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 With those weapons used by current high ranking astartes wont they be too large for them? The Horus Heresy books, as well as other fluff, indicates that the Primarchs are at least a head taller than normal marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163114-weapons-of-the-primarchs/page/4/#findComment-2283852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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