DGC Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Hi to all I have at last started on my forth dreadnought, inspired completely by Bother Grimtuff here at the B&C. A long while back I stumbled across this http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/Grimtuff/Space%20Wolves/Dognought.jpg and was taken aback, mouth dropped etc. This truly is one of the most original Dreadnoughts I have ever come across, so I just had to have one. If the best Space marines can be intered to fight on after death, then why not a Space Wolf with the Mark of the Wolfen. Surely death is but an obstical put in the way of such a natural close combat monster The build looked fairly straight forward but for this 'take' on 'that' Dread I have have ended up using my A.O.B.R plastic Dread as the base plus a Sentinel, some parts from a metal Furioso Dread and a descent raid on my bits box So here goes - most of the pics will show what I have done but please ask if you need anything explained. They are also in the order that I did it and not necessarily the best way to go about things First off was to shape the Dread's torso and legs http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0506.jpg The legs were removed carefully and so were the hoses using Sprue cutters and a sharp knife. The legs were then glued together and when dry, the knee joint was removed and swapped over to the opposite leg. I never noticed this at first on Grimtuff's Dread but it makes sense as that is the way a dog's leg would bend - more like an elbow http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0509.jpg http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0510.jpg http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0521.jpg Next I removed the vent from the torso and repositioned it on what was now the back, and drilled the hose connectors so I could add pipes and tubing later. http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0512.jpg http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0513.jpg Next I started work on the arms / front legs. First thing was to remove the weapons from the arms. The multimelta was easy enough but the storm bolter was a bit harder. The weapon is quite a bit chunkier and seems to be too close to the arm to be able to remove it and still be able to reshape the arm shield to be round. If you have got one, take a look and you will see what I mean. Once the weapons were removed the arm shields were filed round http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0508.jpg The next problem to over come is the different sized arm mounting stub holes, one is larger than the other and they are both bigger than the A.O.B.R Dread so I had to insert a small piece of strip plastic card into the arm mounting holes until they fitted properly. At this stage I still wasn't sure how I was going to get the legs to go together so I added some pins to help in holding it all together until I figured out what to do http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0511.jpg Now onto the head. The metal Juggernaut head has half a collar molded on to it so that had to go. To get it to fit the Dread, I carved the area in between the shoulders (which way up??) a bit deeper so it would take a wheel from a Chimera, cut it in one third and added plastic triangles to it to remake the collar. Added a sprue stub to fill the centre then scribed a circular line using a compass to add a bit of detail. The picture should help explain what happened http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0516.jpg Added a heavy flamer to the lower center of the torso. I cut the hose off carefully and reattatched it between the rear of the flamer and up to the stubby nut thing on the Dread. Glued the Sentinel drive together and removed the circular lump bit so it would fit flush with the dread's torso, also shaved down the Sentinel's exhausts to fit on the rear of the original Dread ones. The next few pics shows most of what has been done to now http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0520.jpg http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0519.jpg http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0518.jpg http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0517.jpg To complete the front legs I drilled straight down into the plastic Dread legs large enough to take the stubs on the arms. Did this in 3 -4 stages so as not to split the plastic. Finally, filed the top of the plastic legs flat and glued the two sections together. At this tage the head and all four legs have not been glued - partly to help when it gets painted but also in case I change my mind about anything http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0524.jpg http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0523.jpg Next comes the first try out of any weapon options - this is not final but is my standard load out for a Dread. I am open to suggestions to make this a close combat monster. As a note, the head or legs could 'count as ' DCCWs. It has been fitted with the Searchlight (from the Ravenwing sprue) and Smoke Launcher (two old metal Dread ones) options that are now standard on all Dreads and the two assault cannons (Ravenwing sprue) only count as one, it just seemed to look better with both The mounts are made fron cut down Typoon missile launcher support arms (the thin ones on the Ravenwing sprue) with a circle of plastic on their ends to give the idea they can move vertically. At the moment the Assault Cannons are only stick-tacked to show how they look http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0528.jpg http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0527.jpg The last bit I am unsure of is the torso area. I have fashioned a Landraider weapon shield to fit into the centre. It isn't glued in place so your comments as to wether it should stay or go would be appreciated http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0526.jpg http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0525.jpg It will probably be a few days at least before I get any more work done on this but I will check back for C&Cs, so please feel free, especially the weapons load out Catcha - DGC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 that's pretty cool, I like the use of the imperial scout walker thingy's legs it adds character to the model! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGC Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 I tried to edit the above post with another picture but it wouldn't let so here it is http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0529.jpg I have been pondering what to do next so I popped a regular metal Dread next to Dognought (must come up with an original name!!) and, well, I reckon to justify it's size I should probably go 'Venerable' - what do ya think?? catcha - DGC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonemarch Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 That's an awesome model! The only think I don't really care for are the ears. With everything to angular and mechanical I think the more organic ears don't seem to fit. Though that's *strictly* a personal preference. As for a name, Dread-Hound has a decent edge to it and still denotes what it is. Good luck with it, can't wait to see the finished piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGC Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 Just a quick update I have parts of this posted over on the Space Wolf forums to get some Wolf inspired feedback and after a couple of replies it became obvious that the weapon mounts needed to change. I have decided to model this as either a Ven Dread or regular Dread as making this into an Ironclad seems way too hard, plus that is my next project after this. The issues then arose of how to equip it weapon wise. As the majority of Dread options are twin-linked this seemed to be the first thing to consider, the other weapon options I can still model even if I use two of each but specify that they only count as one - maybe something on the lines of ease / lack of movement so they are mounted on either side. I can't really see anyone objecting to that. So this is what I have come up with. These are just try-outs and are only held on with stickytack. I only did one of each just to see how they work and to save too much time if it didn't look right with. The plan is to magnetising them and make the 'Dread' as versatile as possible. So what do you think? http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0530.jpg http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0531.jpg http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0532.jpg C&Cs always welcome Catcha - DGC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathar the great Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Very cool conversion you got there, I like its size. The new weapon mounts look a lot better. Those are actually a great idea for building dreads that can count as anything you want them too, with swappable weapon holes like these on normal dread shoulder pieces... Hm... edit: and will you change the pose of the thing? A great conversion like this deserves are more dynamic pose, I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 thats awesome dude, loving the position of the new weapon pods.... definately use it as a venerable dreadnaught... dam you, i really wanna do this now as my companies ven, a living embodiment of the thunderwolf (my great companies marking).... i also think that having the weapons on the front helps to keep it from looking rediculously large... cos its already a fair bit bigger. anyway, keep up the good work... i'll being watching you sir Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrible_Trygon Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Looking very good, though I agree that a new pose is in hand. Also it would be a idea to have something for the empty heavy bolter shells to come out of, lest they fly about inside the dreadnought, damaging vital machinery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 This is coming along brilliantly. Paint it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathar the great Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 You could easily change the pose of the front paws if you attach the plastic half of the legs in a different angle onto the metal part. Just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenAngels123 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 You could also greenstuff the joints at the paws :) that would work well too ;) anyway, i really like it, really cool idea. never ever thought of this before even ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindaris Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 This is coming along quite nicely. The one thing I really don't like however is the Sacrophugos (spelling?) cover still showing at the top of the Dread. Eventually I might do one of these myself (wanting to have the Apoc formation for Dreads after all... working on my 6th now), though I'd use a regular Dread chassis and not put in that cover. But still, yours is very nice and I can't wait to see it done :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domitian Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Sick looking model. My only suggestion is to add more armour plating over the back 'hip'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglephill Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 first off WOW. i really like your work here. I have only one suggestion to make. The feet. They look way too flat and not at all right for this model, i humbly suggest you cut off and reposition his 'toes' when you come to base him. they should all be touching the ground even if the ground is uneven. having said that may i refer you to my first comment: WOW thanks phill ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGC Posted May 26, 2009 Author Share Posted May 26, 2009 Hi to all. It has been a while since I got to working on this 'Houndnought' so I thought I would try and get some stuff done. The project got put on hold while I thought about some of the suggestions made by others, primarily the stance and size of the beast. At that time GW was promoting the new IG Sentinel with movable legs so I waited for some spare pennies and bought one just over a week ago. Voila - I now had four matching legs and feet and the chance to play around with a pose. Most of the work that's been done over the last week is fairly obvious if you compare pictures above with these new ones. The armour plates on the shoulders and the rivet details are finished http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0719.jpg and the central torso armour has had two struts made and some pivot detail added which I think finishes it off quite well - I also added a 'tail' to complete the look (finished or not?? Could add an ariel or a light??) http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0717.jpg You can also see from the above picture I have tried to add some shell ejection holes in the rear shoulder tops and some wolfy details to the front legs. Although the model is still quite 'skinny' at the back I think this is inline with the AV 10 rear armour compared to the bulkier AV 12 front I have also tried to provide a way of giving the head some freedom before a final pose is decided on. I added a sliver of plastic to the neck area and then some off-cuts of guitar strings and vinyl tube to give some detail http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0705.jpg Then came the ears. Yes I made ears. They are made from sheet styrene with the centers left hollow so you can still see the wires and cables that are molded onto the head. I tried to keep them fairly angular but still wolfy, the head sort of looked bare without them and they help to blend in with the neck joint http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0704.jpg And finally a couple of pics of the whole thing, this time against a Marine for size reference http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0715.jpg http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0716.jpg This last pic shows the smoke launchers quite well on the cut down torso (? It's so hard to work out when it's all in the wrong place ^_^ ) I think cutting it down has again helped with overall look and combined with the movable legs has ennabled me to reduce the height http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0718.jpg The next bit will be trying to base it. Even on a base half as big again as a regular dread base it still manages to look cramped so I'm going to have to have a serious think about that. Any suggestions?? (the rest of my army are on rocky styled bases) Hope you like and as always, any C&Cs are more than welcome DGC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiq Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I think the legs are too long, it would look much better if you'd shorten them by removing the hydraulic parts. This would make it look more powerful and stable, right now those legs would fit better on a GiraffeNought That's just my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I LOVE it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGC Posted May 26, 2009 Author Share Posted May 26, 2009 I think the legs are too long, it would look much better if you'd shorten them by removing the hydraulic parts. This would make it look more powerful and stable, right now those legs would fit better on a GiraffeNought That's just my opinion though. Do you mean like this?? http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0720.jpg I've only done one to see how it looks and I see what you mean, more of a Rotwieller than a Greyhound. Anyone else have an opinion before I comit saw to leg?? DGC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjolniir Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 i like the longer legs to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INKS Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 the front sentinal legs make it look much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalevolentMc Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I liked the long legs much more. Looks like it would be more mobile and agile.. not that dreadnoughts are supposed to be.. but this is looking to be an ace conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchell93 Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Definatley long legs because it looks cooler and more agile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marchosias Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Oh my word, that is outstanding. I too like the longer legs. It looks too stunty and awkward with short ones. Hats off to you sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtNACHO Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 First off, very nice dread there, I think it captures the feel of a dreadnaught very well, but also adds that "I'm a beast" (no pun intended) factor to the mix. Second, long legs. It makes him look like he could spring, leap, and pounce around through an urban environment and hunt down enemy armor. Third, do you plan on making more than one because that beastly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Great job! I like the long legs better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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