tortoise Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I recently took a break from converting and painting Noise marines to take a brush to this fine fellow. I've collected Crimson Fists since Rogue Trader and even though I'm more inclined toward Slaanesh nowadays I couldn't not paint the model of Chapter Master Kantor. I wanted to reflect the Fist's determination in the face of disaster on Rynn's world so I decided a suitably battle scared look would be appropriate. However I didn't want to cover the guy in paint chips as seems so popular at the moment, partly because he's got a lot of bling on the go and too much battle damage would interfere with the readability of the model. http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8279/kantorfinished.jpg Comments and crit much appreciated. There's a coolmini link if you feel like voting Kantor on coolminiornot Thanks for looking Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkey Kong Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Beautiful. Awesome. Are the laurels on the knee pads going to be painted or are they staying blue? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1918897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Doyok Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Superb!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1918946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithrilForge Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 you spend hours of time on a model to paint it well ;) you put it on a superb base :P you do weathering that looks very real and not over the top B) ... ....you dont drill out the barrels -_- priceless. Mithril Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1918973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranc Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 It looks great! I love how silvery white the laurels and eagle wings look. Gonna save this photo so I can have it for reference when weather my veteran sergeant ;) Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1919154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddybear9152 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Its an awsome job! Not even got as far as Pedro yet, still got to finish my first 10 man squad and dred ;) Love the detail on yours, don't think mine will be any where as good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1919158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiodome Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 wish people would get it in their heads that drilling out barrels is a personal taste thing, and not doing it isn't a 'fault'. by the way, what is the material used for the bases foliage? it's get a really nice dense look to it that i don't get from the many materials scattered about my painting area. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1919183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Very nice. Weathering is awesome, and nicely done. One thing I'd like to see is the skull on his powerfist get some sort of coloration. Maybe match the laurels? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1919254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harkainos Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Kantors barrels are already partially done... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1919335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Plasticard Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Holy shiznatch! Im speachless... ...he looks amazing! Great job! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1919416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiq Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I don't know if I should feel awe and admiration or jealousy and bitterness. I'll say this though: extremely well painted, probably the best Kantor on the web. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1919466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDuchen Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Unbelievably good! Excellent job on the painting. The only thing that bugs me is that the fist on top of the pole looks unfinished. But I would be proud to paint a model even half this well Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1919510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Now that is seriously nice! Fantastic weathering as well. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1919595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortoise Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 Thanks for the comments guys. The gun barrels were already moulded with a recess. I guess I had assumed that would be enough. In the photos though it is rather obvious that they only have a limited depth. Shiodome- the foliage is by woodland scenics- I think its just called summer foliage or something (I don't keep the packets). I applied it in 2 layers to get a nice thick uneven feel. Shiny Rhino- I wanted to maintain the strong Crimson Fist colour scheme on this model. I sometimes think that marine characters look less affiliated that normal troopers because they have so much extra detail they lose the original colur scheme. Thus the fist symbol on his power fist and the laurels on the knee pads were kept in nrmal chapter colours. Elduchen- the symbol atop the banner was kind of experimental using red paint and metallic medium. Reds don't always photograph well and it looks kind of flat (it does in real life too though). I was wary of highlighting it too much and losing the red colouration. In retrospect i was too cautious. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1919667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metcalfedan Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 :blush: WOW! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1919748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Shiny Rhino- I wanted to maintain the strong Crimson Fist colour scheme on this model. I sometimes think that marine characters look less affiliated that normal troopers because they have so much extra detail they lose the original colur scheme. Thus the fist symbol on his power fist and the laurels on the knee pads were kept in nrmal chapter colours. You know, that makes perfect sense. Commanders and ICs do thend to end up over-painted with a rainbow of colors and gubbins. I think you've converted me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1920652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonMerrick Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Very cool paint job. I love the laurels on the helmet and the wings on the right shoulder pad, making them white instead of the normal gold I've seen, really reinforces the Crimson Fists color scheme, and further differentiates them from the Ultramarines. Also, I perfer my Crimson Fists as a rich deep blue as you painted and not be so dark that the model starts to look purple/black. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1920871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
odinswolf Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 stunning model,smoothly painted 10/10 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1920878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojan Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Congratulations on the excellent mini. This is without question the finest rendition of Kantor I have seen. You have really captured the look and feel of the old Rogue Trader cover, something that has always eluded me when painting my own fists. This fig appears to be a departure from previous crimson fists you have posted with respect to the hues of blue and weathering, but definately a change for the better. Mind sharing the recipe you used for the blue, it doesn't look at all like the traditional GW pigments. Cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1924778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortoise Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 Congratulations on the excellent mini. This is without question the finest rendition of Kantor I have seen. You have really captured the look and feel of the old Rogue Trader cover, something that has always eluded me when painting my own fists. This fig appears to be a departure from previous crimson fists you have posted with respect to the hues of blue and weathering, but definately a change for the better. Mind sharing the recipe you used for the blue, it doesn't look at all like the traditional GW pigments. Cheers Thanks. I never used to put weathering on my old Crimson Fists because people just didn't do that kind of thing with marines back then. It took a master like Cyril to pioneer a good method for painting weathering on 28mm scale models. My method is quite different from his but still was of course heavily influenced by it. But in any event all my previous Fists were purely tabletop models. Even though Id like to go back and do it, I'm not sure i could put this type of battle damage on a whole army without needing some form of therapy afterwards. GW is expensive but you gotta draw the line somewhere. The blue is not a GW blue. In fact my Fists were always painted with a mixed base colour anyway. The recipe is as follows Vallejo Game colour Sick blue is mixed with black. About 80% black for the base coat. (Sick blue is the Vallejo equivalent of Nauseating blue which I used to use untill GW discontinued it) I then add more blue to the mix for each layer, thinning the paint and working it into the previous coat. Each stage is applied in 2 or 3 layers before adding the next quantity of paint to the mix. At about 80% Sick Blue I start to add Space Wolf Grey, continuing the process untill the mix is about 60% SW Grey for the final highlights. The trick is knowing when you have added enough Sick blue before starting to add the Space Wolf grey. Too little blue ends up with a very grey looking model. Too much blue leaves the model looking too bright. This model is a little greyer than my tabletop models since I want my tabletop models to stand out a bit more at a distance Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1925025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sword brethren Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 ooo0000oooohhhh :yes: that is awesome Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1925033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damael Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Wow. Speechless! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1926440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin .44 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 How much do you want for it? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1926793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortoise Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 How much do you want for it? :) :D I'm flattered but its not for sale I'm afraid, although judging from the smilie you might well be joking (I'm too old to understand smilies). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1927065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin .44 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 How much do you want for it? :) :D I'm flattered but its not for sale I'm afraid, although judging from the smilie you might well be joking (I'm too old to understand smilies). Yeah, I'm joking. I'm very satisfied with my Kantor model. In fact, he's the background on my phone... I'm a loser aren't I? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163269-pedro-kantor/#findComment-1927093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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