Warhorse47 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 This has been a whole lot of fun to follow. Great job. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2022440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiplash Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 i like it :) im making one out of the aobr dread (its much smaller than yours) but i only have2 feet, any ideas for what i could use other than sentinel feet? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2022483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I've been looking at using an ATST from the Star Wars Miniatures game for some legs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2022487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGC Posted June 15, 2009 Author Share Posted June 15, 2009 i like it :lol: im making one out of the aobr dread (its much smaller than yours) but i only have2 feet, any ideas for what i could use other than sentinel feet? If you look at Grimtuff's and mine in the early stages the biggest problem is having the feet sat correctly on whatever surface they are standing on - the dreadnought feet are naturally angled so it is realy hard to get it to look right. I would suggest waiting until you have the money to get a sentinel or two or put a lot of thought into the base. The only other alternative is scratch build them, or maybe try Warhorse47's suggestion if you can find them in the right size for the right money Wishing you luck on your build. Will you be posting a W.I.P?? DGC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2022777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGC Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 you know what might work? is a fenrisian wolf standing with him on the base...purely aestetical of course, but it might help bring out the wolf from him, I carved up two wolf models and gs'ed the gaps, took the opportunity to change the wolf's head angle so the whole wolf appears more fluid - no longer in a straight line and more natural. It's not stuck down at the moment so I can paint it seperately but I think that was an inspired idea and like the look. Keeps well with the idea of a SW taken over by the wulfen and being a loner - the only one who fully knows him is the wolf - true kinship (have I taken this too far??). I've also added a few details like searchlight, tubing on the legs and a couple of other wolfy bits including the marine's chest emblem on the front right leg. I've also made up the assault cannons which now give me AC, MM, TLLC, HF and HB weapon choices, all magnatised. http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0745.jpg http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0740.jpg http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0744.jpg http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0743.jpg I have also been looking around it's body and trying to place some pelts without them getting in the way of joints or weapons doesn't seem to leave many places to put them. I might try on the center section but don't want to make the whole thing too busy. As for dead thousand sons or DA, I may squish some DA underfoot As always, C&Cs are more than welcome DGC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2025493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roguemarine Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 seriously it looks amazing sir, ale on me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2025515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demogerg Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I remember seeing this type of dread build before, and i found the website that has the pics. http://bobpanda.de/warhammer/ take a looksy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2026268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirnir Ragefang Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 That's one hell of a dread. Keep up the good work! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2026656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Love it and the wolf, but do cut out the connecting part between the 2 fangs, is a shame to put so mutch work in that wolf and not fixing his teeth Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2026681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrias Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 DGC, it looks fantastic so far, but I think it's missing something. I keep looking at it's feat, and I think it needs some claws! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2027181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyson_Vore Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 I like it, the whole thing looks very streamlined, and I think it looks amazing. One thing I noticed though is that in the image with two assault cannons, that the one on what would be the models right is larger than the one on the models left. Is there any particular reason you did that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2027239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGC Posted June 21, 2009 Author Share Posted June 21, 2009 Greetings to all my fellow brothers. I have a small update based on you suggestions, so credit where credit is due and the wolf, but do cut out the connecting part between the 2 fangs, is a shame to put so mutch work in that wolf and not fixing his teeth Done - and your'e right, it looks a whole lot better. I knew they didn't quite look right but I have always just accepted that as part of the model, I had never considered giving them dental so thanks for the nudge in the right direction http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0749.jpg I keep looking at it's feat, and I think it needs some claws! Done. This was a pain in the butt to achieve but got there in the end. I have also been wondering about that and even considered getting some 'nids just to carve the claws off, but I think this has worked quite well. Again, thanks for pushing me that bit further http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0746.jpg One thing I noticed though is that in the image with two assault cannons, that the one on what would be the models right is larger than the one on the models left. Is there any particular reason you did that? Worry not. They are both the same size, it's just a optical trick that comes about when you use 'macro' so close Lastly, I made some leg armour using a Landraider weapon sponson shield. I must be honest here, I spent roughly two hours trying to make some from my bits box but couldn't get things to look O.K with the parts I had available, so I finally decided to sacrifice one from my new unbuilt landraider kit - all in the name of Russ you understand :) I cut one in half length wise and proceded to cut it to shape. Topped it with some styrene sheet, filed it flush once the glue had dried then added some punched rivets for detail http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0748.jpg http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0747.jpg Now on to finishing the base with some squished DAs As always C&Cs are more than welcome DGC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2027691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 gawd, it looks absolutely badass. I still maintain that I would like to see a bit more substantial of a tail, as tails are nature's counterweight for the four-leggers out there, and yours would end up being a bit front heavy. But again, that's just my $0.02 and overall I absolutely love this dude, and it's a shame you arent mass producing them for comission :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2027749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGC Posted June 21, 2009 Author Share Posted June 21, 2009 OnlyInDeath, I know what mean. I will have to see what eBay has to offer whilst I get on with the base Later - DGC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2027756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1181649_99060110017_NecronWraithsMain_445x319.jpg may be worth a gander. the tail is nice and long (couple inches if memory serves) and the shoulders could be used as armor plates towards the rump. Again, just a thought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2027790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Gabe Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 This looks great, I can't wait to see it finished. And it short of reminds me of a Zoid (i am not sure if any of you know what those are) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2027875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGC Posted August 22, 2009 Author Share Posted August 22, 2009 I know it's been a while since much happened to the beast but I have been on vacation with the family. You would not believe how much you need to go camping with when you have five young pups to ecucate in the ways of nature (and a wife that insisted on taking her hair straightners) So finally I have managed to steal a bit of modeling time. Following O.I.Ds suggestion of the Wraith for a tail I got one of the the internet and set about making it fit. I cut off all the prongs and the end spikey bits and filed then to an almost round shape. As the tail is thicker at one end I decided to keep the sort of oval shape of the tail to help it look slightly more organic (on a machine?!?!) then just stightly flattened the sides of the end tail link that would be attatched to the body so it would fit inbetween the stubs on the rear of the Sentinel Torso - I hope that makes sense, pics should help. Lastly, I don't know when this will get painted. i have a serious cash-flow problem and I do want to get some thousand Sons for the base, then the whole thing can get undercoated at one time. Anyway, I need to finish my WGBL for the Great Hunt Enjoy http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0796.jpg http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/Dognought/DSCN0795.jpg As always, C&Cs are more than welcome DGC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2087144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 it looks a bit like a rat tail atm but what if you added some GS armor plates onto it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2087160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbrother Thrarne Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 That tail worked perfectly, good call O.I.D. It's been fun to see this beast evolve from all the constructive criticism in this thread. What an awesome forum, I'm used to spiteful jealous comments being the order of the day on threads like these. Can't wait to see this guy painted up ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2087161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 I love the tail. Looks like a mechendrite, which IMO fits perfectly for a creation from the Mechanicum. Mechandrites are attached directly to the brain of the owner, and I can definately see a dognaught using it expressively. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2087183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmr Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Damn he is a giant :P! Great job i expecially like the work on the legs . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2087197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 The only relatively minor critique I have to offer is the placement of the Wolf Head icon on the body. Instead of the ribcage area I think I would've gone for something more visible like the shoulder or hip armor plate. Those icons are meant, IMO, to advertise "who is bringing the terror and destruction unto thee" and I just don't get that feeling from it being relatively hidden at it's current placement. The tail looks like an extension of the overall much like an enormous scale servo skull. Good fit. Not sure I would "fuzzy" it up if it were up to me, though maybe just a tad long. Looks a bit more "panther" or other large breed cat than servo/mechanical wolf. I might clip a few links to shorten it if it were mine. I LOVE the twin AC's immensely. I might've found a way to place the ejection ports more visibly (sides rather than rear facing) but again a very minor thing. Would rather have the spent casings ejected laterally than toward the joints and such where they may get caught up and restrict movement and such. Overall I love this concept and manifestation and have enjoyed watching it's progression. Can't wait for it to be finished and see the final pictures. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2087273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGC Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 Thanks for the comments, keep them coming. As I have mentioned before I find them very helpful in my modeling as quite often someone will spot a problem or have a new way of seeing something - all good!! As for the shell ejection ports they are at about 30 degrees from the center line, this should through them well clear of moving parts. I will try to get an overhead pic to post in the next few days. I also understand the comment about the wolf head emblems - more pondering time. The tail is presenting me with some issues. First off is the shape. A real wolf tail comes straight off the spine and is shorter compared to say a Whippet or Greyhound but looking at wolf skeletons on the net they still come down almost to the ground - the bulk of a wolf's tail shape is fur making it look bigger than a domestic dog. The bone structure is similar to all canines and maybe I could be better infer that by blending two links into one with a bit of gs or milliput. I still have the rest of the wraith and I am now pondering using the tail section that comes straight from the necrons torso, it's thicker and shorter but this will have to wait for a few days until I get some time to carve it up. The second problem is making something the shape of a wolf's tail for something that is basically a non-organic robtic coffin, it needs to be mechanical in nature like the rest of the Dread and very flexable. At the moment I can't quite visualise anything that won't end up looking in some way like a rat's tail even if I blend two links together so if anyone has an eye for drawing or design then please feel free to contibute Thanks again for all the C&Cs - DGC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2088307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Perhaps keep the ridges on it that come with the wrait, and maybe even expand them out to the side to look more like vertibrae. That way it wont look like a coil of metal, but rather a metalic spine. I think maybe you could even make the vertibrae larger by blending the two links together and extending the crests. It will be a bit of work, but it should look a little more canine i think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2088386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpsilver Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 This is a really impressive piece of work you have here DgC. Looking forward to seeing this thing painted up Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163291-my-take-on-grimtuffs-dognought/page/2/#findComment-2088424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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