JoeG1701 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Since I've gotten back into 40K the last few months, I've decided to pull out my old 2000 point Black Templar Crusade and upgrade it. This was the first Army I ever put together, and while it was a decent effort, it has problems that I want to fix. Also, I put this army together around the time of the 3rd War for Armageddon, so I need to update the army list so it's codex legal, as well as take advantage of the new Templar parts and my increased level of skill. Here's an example of some of my original work. Like I said, it was OK at the time, but I can do a lot better now: My goals with this effort: I like the color scheme, and want to try to keep the Chaos Black primary color and the Shadow Grey secondary color, but not sure how to highlight a two tone paint job. I want to update the poses, some are just plain silly; I overcoated everything with a high gloss overspray, and while it did protect the finish, it mades everything toy-like. In addition, I want to add in pieces from the new Templar kits as well as make the army codex legal and combat effective. Comments and helpful hints always welcome Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163325-black-templar-army-refit/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeG1701 Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 I decided that the first item up for refit is my Standard Bearer. I saw an WHFB Empire General figure that had a really cool banner that I wanted to use with my new Army. I put together my Standard Bearer using the BT Upgrades and the new banner and got the following: Old and New for comparison: In addition, the banner is removable and can be replaced with a normal Space Marine banner. That way, I can pick and choose which one to use, maybe one for the regular command squad and one for the chaplains command squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163325-black-templar-army-refit/#findComment-1919558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpudWhitman Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Looks like you have a solid existing army to expand on, and your newest addition is certainly a step in the right direction. Did you magnetise the banner pole or use a sequence of interlocking tubes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163325-black-templar-army-refit/#findComment-1919961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillardFlemming Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 That banner is sick, I'm intending to buy both the venerable BT dread and Venerable Chappy dread off Forgeworld. The BT one has a huge skeleton banner like that, and i felt the chappy one would feel left out. Now, If you don't mind me stealing, they will both have one. great idea, and good luck on the upgrade. :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163325-black-templar-army-refit/#findComment-1920067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie777 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I actually liked your first banner alot. It fit. New banner, meh not so much but to each his own. Your paintjobs are well done. Good luck on your project. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163325-black-templar-army-refit/#findComment-1921302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpudWhitman Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Whoops. I meant to convey your new banner bearer is exactly what I like to see when it comes to conversions and the like. Hopefully I didn't imply I want you abandoning the old banner bearer. Anything but, because that banner has a lot of panacia. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163325-black-templar-army-refit/#findComment-1921453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeG1701 Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 For the new banner, I was in the process of pinning it together using a paperclip and drilling holes in both ends of the banner (I finally figured out how to do it with one of my metal models, and everything I did that day got pinned together, whether it needed it or not). I was test fitting together and figured out that if I only glued the paperclip into one end, I can swap it out. I drilled out and pinned the normal banner from the Command Squad set, and plan on transferring the old banner design to it somehow. My daughter is really good at drawing, so I might have to commission her to do the artwork. I like the tapestry design of the old one, and I want to make sure that's included in the new one. I have to remember where the heck I got that picture from. I was never happy with the old command squad, but at the time the only robed figures I could find were the Dark Angel ones. I still plan to do something with them, just not sure where they'll fit in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163325-black-templar-army-refit/#findComment-1922091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Exedore Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I love that Banner bearer of yours, both to be truthfull. Damn, now I have to look for that Banner myself...I will never stop to be an addict :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163325-black-templar-army-refit/#findComment-1922173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
saadeath Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 how do u get your whites so smooth, mine always come out with, dont if im saying this right, brush strokes in them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163325-black-templar-army-refit/#findComment-1922258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krieg Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 That standard bearer is great! :) How well does it balance though? Did you have to weight the bottom of the base at all? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163325-black-templar-army-refit/#findComment-1922443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeG1701 Posted March 20, 2009 Author Share Posted March 20, 2009 Saadeath - For those marines that had unattached shoulder pads, I sprayed them with white primer separately, painted the trim and added the decal before I glued it to the figure. For those with attached shoulder pads, it took a lot of light coats of white paint progressively watered down until I got the look I wanted. Also remember, all my old Templars have been coated with a gloss poly-acrylic spray, so everything is going to look a little smooth and glossy. Kreig - I haven't weighted the base yet. He does have a tendency to fall over, especially if you hit towards the top of the banner. When he has the standard standard...um the one from the command squad box, he's a little bit more stable, but yeah, I'm going to have to do something about it. Thanks for all the comments! I've got him primed right now, but I'm holding off on painting him until I finish up my Crimson Fist Terminators from the AoBR box set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163325-black-templar-army-refit/#findComment-1924717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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