iwasfrozen Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Title pretty much explains it. What Mark would you suggest I should give my Basic CSM for over all Eldar Ass-Whopping. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163419-which-mark/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Title pretty much explains it.What Mark would you suggest I should give my Basic CSM for over all Eldar Ass-Whopping. Thats not really easy because an Eldar army consists of so many different units. It really depends what you expect to be fighting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163419-which-mark/#findComment-1920825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 The obvious answer is MoS/IoS, so they go at the same time as eldar. But I don't tailor my list to specific opponents, and my unmarked/IoCG guys usually do pretty well vs eldar, b/c it keeps #'s up, and lets face it, against a good eldar player you are going to lose alot of guys (those guys have no respect for pwr armor :D ). Things I find useful vs eldar...flamers, hvy bolters, good ol' bolters, rinos used to block LoS, hamper their movement, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163419-which-mark/#findComment-1920837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I would say the Mark of Khorne would be the best, Eldar are weak in close combat (though GW wants us to believe otherwise). Having even more attacks their will munch through Eldar units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163419-which-mark/#findComment-1921121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 The obvious answer is MoS/IoS, so they go at the same time as eldar.But I don't tailor my list to specific opponents, and my unmarked/IoCG guys usually do pretty well vs eldar, b/c it keeps #'s up, and lets face it, against a good eldar player you are going to lose alot of guys (those guys have no respect for pwr armor :sick: ). Things I find useful vs eldar...flamers, hvy bolters, good ol' bolters, rinos used to block LoS, hamper their movement, etc. Actually in most cases MoS/IoS will be wasted as plenty of eldar units are I6. So i'd go with the regular Icon of Chaos Glory for the reroll. I wouldn't bother with anything other than that as cult troops are better otherwise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163419-which-mark/#findComment-1921145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Being an Eldar player myself, I'd say take no Icon and take Plague Marines or Berzerkers instead. If you absolutely NEED to take an Icon, take Icon of Chaos Glory or Icon of Nurgle, because then most units only wound them on a 6 in CC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163419-which-mark/#findComment-1921206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I would say the Mark of Khorne would be the best, Eldar are weak in close combat (though GW wants us to believe otherwise). Having even more attacks their will munch through Eldar units. Hah someone hasn't told my Eldar army... Most of the time my army is combat based... the Number of World Eater armies I ate in Close combat since 3rd Ed. Hi I'm Going thirst in combat... I'm getting 30+ power weapon attacks (cause I charged), I might need 5's to wound you but in all likely hood your doomed so I can re-roll anyway. Oh I'm a WL you can't hurt me with your standard attacks...(I know Power fists exist). The thing with Eldar is that most units are specialised for a certain function. To simplify what I mean Striking Scorpions are Anti-horde CC Unit while Howling Banshees are Anti-MEQ/Terminators. So a DP is ok because they find it hard to wound (especially the Howling Banshees, but lets pretend you just have troops). A squad of 10 Chaos Space Marines and a Squad of 10 Generic lesser Daemons. The Eldar player will want the scorpions into the daemons and the Banshees into the Marines what you need to do is try and get it the other way around so that the eldar player isn't getting the most value from his unit and with luck you will win both of the combats... heh if you can get the charge with either of them even better. Against the Eldar its all about seizing the initiative, make them play your game don't play theirs! But yer Cults units are better than marked units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163419-which-mark/#findComment-1921209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutt-Man! Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Khorne multiplies your strength 4 and going behind their initiative in most fights would be proper. Also not to put too many points into an icon I reinforce the suggestion for khornate icons. It makes your regular marine unit seem scarier to those banshees then usual, because eldar most likely get the charge 'zerkers wont get their furious charge benefits. So you will fight mostly like a zerk unit when charged. Alternately, I would vie for Nurgle icons, since most of their marine munching ranged and melee weapons can be affected by toughness 5 even if its strength 6, you save a few marines in the long run all the while forcing most of his models to wound you with 6's. (Your entire army is like wounding monstrous*zilla*creatures) Alternately, if he runs with tons of rending, then definately run with tzeentch icons. I would suggest slaanesh marks for the leaders, so that you can have access to initiative 6 instant kill weaponry, other then that nurgle mark for the leader is best for multi-wound/wound on 4+ (wraithlords/guard). Thats my version, having played eldar way too much. They will get that charge, your better to take resoloute stuff then the spendy flimsy things. Eldar are made of fast flimsy things superior to youres, so be durable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163419-which-mark/#findComment-1923860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
im terrible at painting Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Slannesh, it fits in with the fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163419-which-mark/#findComment-1925492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razhbad Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I say mark or Nurgle that extra toughness will be critical in hand to hand combat Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163419-which-mark/#findComment-1927027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukov Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I would say none (well maybe the Glory one), because you cannot know what you will be facing. Eldar can field too many different lists: shooty, assaulty, high mobile, high toughness (wraithguard) and sometimes a combination of both. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163419-which-mark/#findComment-1927166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Chaos_Brute Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 None, just take cult troops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163419-which-mark/#findComment-1927174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood_raven_240 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I'd go for Nurgle, it'd help to hold off against Howling Banshees and Farseers tooled for CC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163419-which-mark/#findComment-1927177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I'd go for Nurgle, it'd help to hold off against Howling Banshees and Farseers tooled for CC. How is the mark of Nurgle going to help against farseers tooled up for cc? It could help against Banshees yes... (in fact its great vs them) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163419-which-mark/#findComment-1927249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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