SinSynn Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm putting together my first space marine army (went back to playing my Tau for a while-what a mistake!), and I kinda like biker lists. So here's the question- if I bring a captain on a bike, I can bring bikers as troop choices. Now, I can add an attack bike on top of 8 bikers, to make 10 marines. This is all very nice. But when I bring a squad of 8 bikers, do they occupy BOTH the fast attack slot AND the troop slot, or one or the other? For instance, do they still occupy the fast attack slot but COUNT AS troops? or vice-versa? What I'd like to do is bring the captain on a bike, a couple squads of bikers as troops (minimum 5, I believe, to count as troops) and then bring 3 SEPERATE attack bikes, one in each fast attack slot. Y'know, maybe 1 multi melta and a couple of heavy bolters. I just think attack bikes are cool as hell, and I'd like to see a nice group of 3 running around. But if I seperate them, I think they have a better chance, as opponents have to pick just one for a squad to shoot at. Sorry if I'm asking something that is basic knowledge. I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163737-force-org-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 No, Biker Captains make Bikers Troops, they don't take up a FA slot unless you want them to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163737-force-org-question/#findComment-1925007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinSynn Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 thank you, sir. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163737-force-org-question/#findComment-1925617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 No problem, happy to help ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163737-force-org-question/#findComment-1925635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miscellaneous Marine Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 As a Follow up. The Rules state that bike squads of minimum 5 (Dont have wording in front of me). Can I run 3 regular bikes and 1 attack bike and still count the unit as a troops choice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163737-force-org-question/#findComment-2018076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
angry man Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 the rule for bikes as troops says that units must have 5 models. therefore you would need 4bikes and an attack bike - attack bikes are only one model AM Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163737-force-org-question/#findComment-2018299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawks Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 additionally, attack bikes count as 2 models for the purposes of combat squads. see P68 of C:SM. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163737-force-org-question/#findComment-2018362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 the rule for bikes as troops says that units must have 5 models. therefore you would need 4bikes and an attack bike - attack bikes are only one model AM Incorrect. You have to have five Marine Bikers for it to qualify as a Troops choice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163737-force-org-question/#findComment-2018551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 the rule for bikes as troops says that units must have 5 models. therefore you would need 4bikes and an attack bike - attack bikes are only one model AM Incorrect. You have to have five Marine Bikers for it to qualify as a Troops choice. Actually it says 'Space Marine Bikes squads of at least five models'. As an Attack bike is an add-on part of a bike squad it's OK to take. As angry man says if you buy a small squad you then have the minimum required of 4 bikes and one attack bike = 5 models: 3 x in orignal squadron, + 1 additional biker, + 1 attack bike = the 5 models. Attack bikes only count as two models when in combat squads. Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163737-force-org-question/#findComment-2018606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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