Grimtooth Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I have been out of 40k for quite some time now. After some marathon replaying of Dawn of War series and then jumping into Dawn of War 2, the need for some gaming is back. However I have some questions now regarding my SW army. 13th are no longer legal. Is there going to be some revised rules come the new Codex: SW that will allow them to be legal or allow a SW army to be created under their unique rule sets? I am getting the sense that the 13th was a nice EoT distraction army to boost some sales during the campaign and are now falling by the wayside. I have not found anything yet here or online for plans for them come the new codex. Anyone have any links that might be able to share on their future if there is one? Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 Also, when is the new codex supposed to be out for SW? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1928527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 All of these questions can be answered rather quickly: We don't know. The new 'dex is supposedly slated for release later this year, but other than that we know nothing. Next time try to Search for the thousands of threads like this here in the Fang. Now before the Mods swoop in, I'll have to beat you with the prototype Ragnaroksock. *winds up for a crushing blow, then beats OP into a bloody pulp with the RS* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1928546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Ooo... that looks like it hurt. ;) Anyway 13th Company are no longer tourney legal, and it is unclear whether the list will continue with the new C:SW and nobody has a set date for when it will be released either. We're taking bets though. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1928674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 Yea, I am not too worried about getting smacked or whatever by Bran's lovesock. I searched 13th Co, I searched codex and all I got was 13th is not legal and and March 6th thread with people saying Sept/Nov/Dec. Which is why I also asked for links if there was any. Even Bran's links in his sig don't address my questions, so not really worried about his opinion of himself on the B&C. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1928691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 Ooo... that looks like it hurt. ;) Anyway 13th Company are no longer tourney legal, and it is unclear whether the list will continue with the new C:SW and nobody has a set date for when it will be released either. We're taking bets though. :tu: Thanks for the easy reply btw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1928695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Okay, I'll try to put this nicely and as flame-free as I can. The Fang here has undergone a massive surge of "What's in the New Wolf Codex" and "When is the New Wolf Codex" threads in the past few months, most of which were locked because there are so many of them, usually with a bit along the lines of "Use the Damn Search Function!". As such, it gets rather annoying to the veteran members when someone puts up yet another "When/What's in the New 'Dex" thread. That's why I said I don't know- the date has not been confirmed, that much has been stated dozens of times here, we have no idea what's in it, and we don't know what's happened to the 13th Company. Now I was entirely polite and civil in my response, I could have been far worse. You in return, insult me twice. I'm taking the high road by not responding likewise to you. Again, I could, but I'm not going to lower myself to insulting someone over the internet. Obviously you don't come by this forum very often, so let me add this one bit: If you're gonna say something about someone you don't know, don't. It'll just make you look like a jackass, especially when the person you're insulting has done more than a fair bit for his gaming community. Feel free to search for WolfLordLars, Wolf 89, or OnlyInDeath, we've all got similar badges in our signatures, most of us have links to the GW and B&C FAQ's as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1928787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Fang Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Er growler67, photobucket don't seem to like yer lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1928965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Er growler67, photobucket don't seem to like yer lol. ? Can't see them? I can, maybe your settings. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1928993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Okay, I'll try to put this nicely and as flame-free as I can. The Fang here has undergone a massive surge of "What's in the New Wolf Codex" and "When is the New Wolf Codex" threads in the past few months, most of which were locked because there are so many of them, usually with a bit along the lines of "Use the Damn Search Function!". As such, it gets rather annoying to the veteran members when someone puts up yet another "When/What's in the New 'Dex" thread. That's why I said I don't know- the date has not been confirmed, that much has been stated dozens of times here, we have no idea what's in it, and we don't know what's happened to the 13th Company. Now I was entirely polite and civil in my response, I could have been far worse. You in return, insult me twice. I'm taking the high road by not responding likewise to you. Again, I could, but I'm not going to lower myself to insulting someone over the internet. Obviously you don't come by this forum very often, so let me add this one bit: If you're gonna say something about someone you don't know, don't. It'll just make you look like a jackass, especially when the person you're insulting has done more than a fair bit for his gaming community. Feel free to search for WolfLordLars, Wolf 89, or OnlyInDeath, we've all got similar badges in our signatures, most of us have links to the GW and B&C FAQ's as well. I feel your sentiment wolf brother. Sadly I have a feeling these things will continue as more new people join in our ranks, more so when the future codex comes out... I myself got tired of replying and posting URL links showing the similar questions and topics associated to a trend, which resulted as being viewed as "rude" to the whelps here LOL whatever, props for keeping your composure and your cool! way to represent the Space Wolves and the Fang :lol: as for Brother Ramses, I welcome you to the Fang! please try to understand where wolf brother Bran is coming from. Have an ale the both of you. We wolves new and old work better as a pack. Remember who our enemies are, and they are NOT amongst ourselves. This is the hall of Russ, remember it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1929074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Yea, I am not too worried about getting smacked or whatever by Bran's lovesock. I searched 13th Co, I searched codex and all I got was 13th is not legal and and March 6th thread with people saying Sept/Nov/Dec. Which is why I also asked for links if there was any. Even Bran's links in his sig don't address my questions, so not really worried about his opinion of himself on the B&C. Well insulting Bran isn't likely to enamor you to anyone, the SW board is a pretty tight knit and humorous community, I guess you didn't get the joke. :lol: Normally that would mean removal of ale rations for a month but It looks like MaveriK is in a generous mood. :P In future remember to browse the recent threads, use the search feature and check the FAQ's before posting a question, it does get very, very tiresome to have to answer the same or similar questions at least once a week, if not more. Oh and MaveriK, try telling that bit about working together to Berek Thunderfist and Sigrid Trollbane. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1929099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 Considering I have been in this game quite a long time, joined B&C again after the board migration, played both my DA and 13th Co in the EoT campaign with coordination of the B&C back in 2003, the high and mighty tone of being a B&C regular old timer coming off Bran didn't set well. After EoT, 4th Edition just began to wear on me and I stopped playing and explained coming back in my post. As I pointed out in the title of the thread, I did search and there was nothing much in terms of my questions past March 6th in terms of a new codex. The only thing I saw about the 13th was in the FAQ, after I had searched, that said they were not a legal army anymore. So I posted up the questions if anything new was heard or if there was any links to the new info. The time and energy it took Bran to be offended/tired/fed up with what he perceives as yet another thread that is an affront to the SW forums probably could have been spent better elsewhere. We wolves new and old work better as a pack. I play DA and 13 Co, I don't play well with anyone. :angry: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1929119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bareserker Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 As the great veteran wolf priest Olaf Stormhammaer said ......." ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE !" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1929158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 As I pointed out in the title of the thread, I did search and there was nothing much in terms of my questions past March 6th in terms of a new codex. The only thing I saw about the 13th was in the FAQ, after I had searched, that said they were not a legal army anymore. So I posted up the questions if anything new was heard or if there was any links to the new info. The time and energy it took Bran to be offended/tired/fed up with what he perceives as yet another thread that is an affront to the SW forums probably could have been spent better elsewhere. Yes and the same could be said of your response. Point is you searched and found nothing on the 13th, shouldn't that indicate that there is... nothing rumored about the 13th? That's the answer you got and it seemed your search did indeed turn up the answer, just not perhaps in the way you anticipated. So in essence Bran was right that the search should have answered your questions, if you still felt the need to ask well so be it but there's no need for anyone to be snide. In any case with regards to your 13th you could refit them as regular SW or just wait and see what happens with the new Codex. The only rumours we have are with regards to the Wulfen and some hints at possible plastic Wulfen though nothing substantiated or credible on that subject has come to light so I very much doubt it. The 13th Company list is probably going the way of the other lists from the EoT book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1929161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Whatever guys, as the wolf picture says: :cuss? please be quiet! That being said... no one knows anything concrete about the new SW codex.... its rumored at the end of the year, but frankly Ive heard that the last five years so Im not holding my breath. As for 13nth co, some people will let you, other people wont- talk to your local game store. It frankly doesnt need any FAQ except that give to the normal space wolf book... it works just fine as written in 5th. Same thing for your gaming group.... most people wont be particularlly upset, especially when you tell them "no tanks". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1929199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 Whatever guys, as the wolf picture says: :cuss? please be quiet! That being said... no one knows anything concrete about the new SW codex.... its rumored at the end of the year, but frankly Ive heard that the last five years so Im not holding my breath. As for 13nth co, some people will let you, other people wont- talk to your local game store. It frankly doesnt need any FAQ except that give to the normal space wolf book... it works just fine as written in 5th. Same thing for your gaming group.... most people wont be particularlly upset, especially when you tell them "no tanks". Oh I don't expect a problem with local gaming group, but I did like the local/state tournament scene when I was playing. As for the "no tanks", that seems to be almost negated now by coming in from board edges with 5th and being able to pop things rapidly with meltas. Will see I guess. I just have time to paint and model more 13th Co themed SW and then go with a 'nilla SW army if I get hosed come codex time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1929544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikken Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 personally I am glad you asked the question , I was wondering the same thing . I have been using the search feature , and it is not as useful as some seem to think it is . this is most likely due to the fact that as a new SW I am exactly that new . What may be obvious to veterans , is lost in the clutter of old posts to new players . I very much appreciate the veterans with patience , and after reading this thread I now understand the sock comments in my thread on the questions I asked . I know how frustrating it must be for the veterans , but please have as much patience with us new guys as passable, ppl are not usually asking these questions for no reason . you may have answered the question 100 times , but there is a reason for that it is what every new wolf gets confused on or needs to know . The FAQs are helpful , but as a new wolf I have to say sometimes they raise more questions than they answer . This is especially true if your 40K experience is with another army with different rules. Is there any way to make a "young pups" thread sticky where new players can ask all the dumb questions they want even if they have been answered 100 times b4 in other threads ? It might save cluttering up the forum with similar type threads , and save the nerves of the old veterans :P as a side note this problem is not exclusive to SWs , it seems to be a problem on other 40K forums as well . It is in fact a good problem to have , because it means new ppl are coming into the hobby ,and the more ppl there are playing , the better it is for every one . Thanks for asking this question ,as I was wondering myself , and thanks to those that answered it , the info was useful . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1929564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haakon_Stormbrow Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 why can't a mod sticky the most popular topics to prevent duplicates????? B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1929609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 why can't a mod sticky the most popular topics to prevent duplicates????? :P Because then we'd have a dozen extra stickies and the actual active threads would get pushed onto page 2 a lot. Not really practical. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1929811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 why can't a mod sticky the most popular topics to prevent duplicates????? :tu: Because then we'd have a dozen extra stickies and the actual active threads would get pushed onto page 2 a lot. Not really practical. :P On one of the four wheel drive forums I am on a bunch, they have one specific stickied thread called, "TOTM: <insert topic>" and it gathers relevant topic of the month threads as links. So the actual thread would be like this, TOTM: 13th Company: Legality (links) Painting (links) FAQ (links) TOTM: 5th Edition: Changes to Space Wolves (Links) 5th Edition FAQ (links) TOTM: New Codex: Release Date (links) Rumored Changes (links) Proposed ideas (links) Works on their boards pretty well when you need something like dropping a chevy engine in a Jeep, you can find the TOTM for small block chevy engines into jeeps and see the threads for what people have done. Just a thought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1929860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I've seen that done before, doesn't work that well in my experience, the same threads pop up again and again and people constantly overlook the stickies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1929869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 I've seen that done before, doesn't work that well in my experience, the same threads pop up again and again and people constantly overlook the stickies. it works differently over there too since paid subscribers get to search more then non-paying ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1929892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 It is a matter of opinion as to whether 13th Coy are legal or not. I know of GW events held in Nottingham where 13th Coy armies have been in play so it all depends on where/whom you are playing. My money is one Sept for the new codex but nothing but unreliable rumour on the 13th Coy Oh, and welcome to the Fang :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1930610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 It is a matter of opinion as to whether 13th Coy are legal or not. I know of GW events held in Nottingham where 13th Coy armies have been in play so it all depends on where/whom you are playing. My money is one Sept for the new codex but nothing but unreliable rumour on the 13th Coy Oh, and welcome to the Fang :P GWs schedule 6 months out is usually known. So, September is not likely. I'd guess November. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1930639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Fang Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 From what I've heard I'd agree with November . 6 month schedule puts it at September - December time as JamesI said september is unlikely as it should have been annoced by know GW never releases stuff in December so that is out the window as well. Which leaves oct/nov, we're all "confident" that its this year so this would make sense. Long Fang Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164042-some-questions-after-searching/#findComment-1930784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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