Haakon_Stormbrow Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 My way for differentiating squad is to go lighter in color for the older space wolves. Starting with blood claws i have them in a mix of shadow grey and space wolves grey, since they have new shiny armor. Then my grey hunters well there armor is well grey. then my Wolf guard Long fangs and scouts go the more traditional color with except i go a little lighter to blend with snow. anyway thats how i do my wolves, was wondering if anybody had any other tricks to differentiating squads other then what weapons they have? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164123-differentiating-squads/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikken Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I like the pics . very helpful. I bought my army recently from someone else and am still figuring out what is what. he seems to have uses different colours on the shoulder pads to indicate diff units types and separate squads even .I think i will continue to use this system , it is simple and easy for me and my opponent to follow ( i hope ), I think I will rework the colours to my own version Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164123-differentiating-squads/#findComment-1929578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Fang Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I use the shoulder pads to separate out the packs. Bleached bone pad background with squad marking on then trim Shadow Grey for Blood claws Chaos black for Grey hunters Gold for wolf priests, Lords etc Haven't settled on trim color for wolf guard/long fangs yet. Long Fang Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164123-differentiating-squads/#findComment-1929606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBob Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 While the idea is solid, just realize that, en masse, it'll look like 3 different chapters on the same battlefield. Not like it's as contrasting as mixing Imperial Fists, Crimson Fists and Templars, it may still look a bit disbanded. Perhaps a pic of the army as a whole will sell me better. About the only other chapter I can think of that changes it's color as they get higher in the ranks is the Templars. They tend to don more white liverlies/ robes to show their purity and devotion as the crusade longer and longer.. Oh, forgot about the Deathwing.. still, that's 1st company, and wolfies only have houses inside companies.. not a full 1st comp. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164123-differentiating-squads/#findComment-1929626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haakon_Stormbrow Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 actually because all the shoulder pads are the same it actually melds nicely, and the color differences are not as big as shown, my opponents all love i because they can easily tell what there facing, with the typical yellow red and black on the right shoulder it makes 2 of the same type distinguishable as well. I have used this paint scheme since third ed, and i can say from playing against other marine armies it helps a lot. i once versed a dark angels army that was it's a blur to me, all super dark green with white zig zags on a shoulder too distinguish when combat occurred it was chaotic, figuring out how many were left in the tactical and how many in the devastators. basically the average look is that of grey space wolves with a mix of codex grey and shadow grey and space wolves gray for blood claws, codex grey and fortress grey for grey hunters and space wolves grey fortress grey and skull white for the rest. the trick is to not use straight colors, but to build the colors up in different increments to give a shaded look, the way the pics loo is the way my models look now, but i have still not had the time to put any high lights on them, they are very raw as most were rushed for deadlines at tournaments. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164123-differentiating-squads/#findComment-1929648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I have specific runes for specific squads. It matches up to my printed out army list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164123-differentiating-squads/#findComment-1929692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I use the color of the shoulder pads, squad size and equipment to differentiate. All my packs have a different rune on them to show wich they belong to, though I have a few "specialists" that are lacking the mark and instead get an odd shoulderpad... the one with the circle on it. It shows a symbol of their special weapon, as it is said the legions did 10k ago. *shrugs* Works for me, and I suppose the armor coloring would work just find. Seems an odd way to do it, but its your Great Company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164123-differentiating-squads/#findComment-1929708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 i use the traditional idea of coloured motifs to differentiate between my packs to an extent, but ive also started modeling certain unit tyoes to look a certain way... i've mentioned it before, but mohawks and twin axes on th bloodclaws, bolters (unsurprisingly) on the grey hunters, the wolf cloak that comes on the sprue with old long fang legs for my pack leaders, and wolf guard bodyguard get proper cloaks with fur ruffs and plenty of tails and talismans (plus tda but hey...) and although they are only wip and i currently have 1 painted model my oppponents know exactly what they are fighting... as for your idea of the 3 different colours, i'm not convinced as i think it could lead to them looking like different armies (as mentioned above) although all stemming from a common founding chapter. i understandwhat your saying but i think the more traditional line of coloured markings works eaqually well, also are you running the grey hunters with bolters or bolt pistols... if bolters then you'll probably find that makes them look different enough without the need for the colour scheme... although providing your happy with it then go for it, its your company after all Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164123-differentiating-squads/#findComment-1929975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanaellars Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I know we wolves are a highly unique and rebellious lot, but just for the record, this HAS been officially discussed. Its in the old (1994) codex, pages 32-33. It states that traditionally, Blood Claws wear shoulder markings of RED / YELLOW Grey Hunters wear shoulder markings of RED / BLACK Long Fangs wear shoulder markings of WHITE / BLACK Wolf Guard wear shoulder markings of YELLOW / BLACK It isnt set in stone, but it does look good. Also, I personally still use the old Seargent & Veteran system. Basically, the pack Seargent is my Wolf Guard Pack Leader. He has either a Power Weapon or a Power Fist. The pack Veteran (no special stats) has another Power Weapon or Power Fist, and is normally the one to carry the packs banner (normally a back banner) I make my packs easier to spot by duplicating the packs unique shoulder markings on thier banner, and then marking that same design on my roster, so there is no confusion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164123-differentiating-squads/#findComment-1930141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I know we wolves are a highly unique and rebellious lot, but just for the record, this HAS been officially discussed. Its in the old (1994) codex, pages 32-33. It states that traditionally, Blood Claws wear shoulder markings of RED / YELLOW Grey Hunters wear shoulder markings of RED / BLACK Long Fangs wear shoulder markings of WHITE / BLACK Wolf Guard wear shoulder markings of YELLOW / BLACK It isnt set in stone, but it does look good. Also, I personally still use the old Seargent & Veteran system. Basically, the pack Seargent is my Wolf Guard Pack Leader. He has either a Power Weapon or a Power Fist. The pack Veteran (no special stats) has another Power Weapon or Power Fist, and is normally the one to carry the packs banner (normally a back banner) I make my packs easier to spot by duplicating the packs unique shoulder markings on thier banner, and then marking that same design on my roster, so there is no confusion. The problem I have with the squad markings from the codex is that you end up looking like a army full of ambulance sirens. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164123-differentiating-squads/#findComment-1930163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Like kanaellars said packs should by the fluff be differentiated by the color and markings of their right shoulder pad, the left designating Great Company. But regardless I find very little confusion on the matter anyway, after all for my army Grey Hunters all have Bolters, Blood Claws all have Bolt Pistols and Chainswords, Wolf Guard ALL have Wolf Pelts modeled on them and the Long Fangs have the Heavy Weapons. There's little to get confused about, the only time it's a problem is when 3-4 squads all get mixed up into a single large mass melea but then the different colored armor wouldn't help much for that either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164123-differentiating-squads/#findComment-1930164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCarter Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 All my wolves use a Left shoulder pad of red trimmed in gray with a wolf head for the company symbol. Each pack has a unique color in the right shoulder pad and a unique pack symbol. Trim is gray. The pack color is repeated on the round exhaust vents on the back pack and on the round kneecap pads (if their type of armor has them). Terminators always have black on the right shoulder pad with a symbol indicating their primary weapon qualification. Command personnel have gold on the right shoulderpad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164123-differentiating-squads/#findComment-1930914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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