MechSpacewulf Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 OK... I was using the Army-Builder program for my Wolves and notices that when I bought Melta-Bombs for my BloodClaws it auto purchased them for all the units of course and then when my Chaos buddy gave me his list on the program I noticed the only chaos troops that could take MB's were the Thousand Sons like my BC's but all the Chaos Champions and Sorceres could take them like my wolfgaurd pack leaders and so forth as listed... 1st question/clarification: if you buy for one troop you buy for all troops from 5 to 10 so a 5 man squad would be charged 5x the points cost. 2nd question/clarification: only those units/leaders/HQ's that show that they can have the MB's as an option can take them... they are not universaly available unless the Wargear:All is described. I looked this up in my rule book and what codexes I have and I think I have the answers, just need some verification. Pat Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164125-wargear-wtf/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 The codecies always trump AB, but do report any problems you have with it in this thread. 1. Yes, you pay the points for meltabombs per model, so a squad of 5 would buy meltabombs for [y] x 5. 2. Must be an AB thing for that "Wargear: All" bit, as that is not in the printed books. If the unit can take it, it will say so in the appropriate unit entry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164125-wargear-wtf/#findComment-1929647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 In earlier codices, there was a universal wargear list, and independent characters or squad upgrade characters then had access to that list. In the more recent codices (DA, BA, SM, CSM, Orks) there is no such overall list anymore, and every unit or model entry has it's own list of options. The Space Wolves have a very old Codex, and they still have a universal Wargear list. The wargear list is only for characters, though, and units are also equipped with their own special options, such as special or heavy weapons or grenades. Grenades are usually bought for whole units, with point costs per model. There are a few rare exceptions such as in the current Codex Imperial Guard, where sometimes a fixed price is payed to equip the whole unit with a certain upgrade, independent of how many models the unit may have. Units and models have a list of options they can have. If they don't have grenades as options, or are permitted wargear from the wargear list, then they cannot get them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164125-wargear-wtf/#findComment-1929674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I know that, as I've been playing since '98. I was just saying that there still isn't a specific "Wargear: All" bit in the older codecies, but instead it's likely one of the wargear functions in AB. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164125-wargear-wtf/#findComment-1929834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Refer to relevant Codex for issues of personal wargear, not to AB which might throw up some odd results. If you have any specific Codex Space Wolves issues regarding equipping your models, take it up in the SW section of the forum. So as this question has been answered and as such wasn't a rules question per se but an AB question this topic is closed. Sorry to be harsh over this, but we're not here to resolve Army Builder's problems – especially when there is a perfectly good official GW source-book to work from. [edit: it seems I did the OP an injustice by suggesting he'd asked for wargear costs. He hadn't, and I apologise. /edit] Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164125-wargear-wtf/#findComment-1930155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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