pryor Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 A Landspeeder Storm can Deep Strike & being Open-topped the Scouts can charge from the moving vehicle. Deep Striking vehicles count as moving at cruising speed but this does not apparently affect the transport ability of a skimmer. So does this mean that a Scout squad can Deep Strike in a Landspeeder Storm & assault on the same turn? Can someone can clear this up for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 A Landspeeder Storm can Deep Strike & being Open-topped the Scouts can charge from the moving vehicle.Deep Striking vehicles count as moving at cruising speed but this does not apparently affect the transport ability of a skimmer. So does this mean that a Scout squad can Deep Strike in a Landspeeder Storm & assault on the same turn? Can someone can clear this up for me? Yeah the rules seem to allow scouts to disembark from a speeder even after it has moved at cruisiong speed, i found this quite strange, as they cannot fire from within the speeder, but can jump out fire and assault if they wanted to... Strange but true. GC08 Edit: oops forgot to take into account deepstrike, scouts cannot assault on the turn they deepstrike, but can still disembark and shoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanthius Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Units arriving via deep strike cannot assault on the same turn though, can they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Corallis Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 No, they cannot. It's clearly stated in the BRB that units arriving via deep strike cannot charge the turn they arrive. No matter if they arrive in a vehicle, they still cannot assault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekbadger Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 It's not the scouts arriving via deepstrike though, the LSS is the deepstriking unit in question. A drop pod is another deep-striking unit with transport capacity and it goes as far to specifically states in its rules that assaulting is dissallowed, why no similar mention in the LSS's rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koremu Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 It's not the scouts arriving via deepstrike though, the LSS is the deepstriking unit in question. A drop pod is another deep-striking unit with transport capacity and it goes as far to specifically states in its rules that assaulting is dissallowed, why no similar mention in the LSS's rules? No, the unit is still arriving on the battlefield via Deep Strike - even when contained within the Transport. They cannot assault. What you can do, and what you are advised to do with a Land Speeder Storm, is to Outflank (both the LSS and the Scouts have Scout, which allows this). You then have a unit which can enter play on the LSS, dismount and then Assault, and which threatens 20" onto the board from the table edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 It's not the scouts arriving via deepstrike though, the LSS is the deepstriking unit in question. A drop pod is another deep-striking unit with transport capacity and it goes as far to specifically states in its rules that assaulting is dissallowed, why no similar mention in the LSS's rules? No, the unit is still arriving on the battlefield via Deep Strike - even when contained within the Transport. They cannot assault. What you can do, and what you are advised to do with a Land Speeder Storm, is to Outflank (both the LSS and the Scouts have Scout, which allows this). You then have a unit which can enter play on the LSS, dismount and then Assault, and which threatens 20" onto the board from the table edge. Good idea, i'd use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdeathlegion Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Read the "Deep Strike" rules for clarification on disallowed assaulting after deep strike. And on a side note, in case anyone here isn't aware, the LSS is an OPEN-TOPPED VEHICLE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 And on a side note, in case anyone here isn't aware, the LSS is an OPEN-TOPPED VEHICLE! We know. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutt-Man! Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Keep in mind.. Also that the thing can deter other deep strikers nearby, so moving near an icon to deter summoning should be kept in mind. A rare ability should not be forgotten. Scout move can give you a decent run for the first turn if you know you've got it. No need to outflank, catch him offguard in the first turn and assault freely using shrike for fleet. 12"scout+12"move+2.75"disembark(Its like coherency, refer disembarkment example picture)+D6"fleet+6"assault(also keep in mind they have move through cover and a skimmer gets them there). Its almost guranteed. 1 Powerfist sergeant can slap a tank or dread down on the charge, it would be like munching marines when it kills scouts so its no biggie. I just regret sadly, that they did not make this wonder a transport option for standard games.... Poor scouts in apoc, that lack short range anti tank weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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