Brother Eleysium Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 I have been away from 40K for almost 6 months now, and am starting to get back into it. I was planning on making a Word Bearers army, because I have always liked their color scheme, and after recently finishing The Battle For The Abyss I have grown to like them a lot. I had some questions about my army compositon and if it was way out of character for this legion. I was planning on using quite a few Berzerker squads and a Lord with the Mark of Khorne. I also planned on using some summoned daemons, and a greater daemon. Los of my non cult marines were going to be Devastator Squads, and Chosen. Would this be unfluffy? I was under the impression that the Word Bearers were religious zealots, so I viewed this to be aceptable. Am I correct on this? If boy brothers tell me what is considered to be acceptable foethis legion. I know very little about their Legion compositon and tactics. So any help and or comments would be great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164434-new-word-bearers-army/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uprising Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 I was planning on using quite a few Berzerker squads and a Lord with the Mark of Khorne. I also planned on using some summoned daemons, and a greater daemon. Los of my non cult marines were going to be Devastator Squads, and Chosen. Would this be unfluffy? Word Bearers look down upon cult units but it ok. The solution to the problem is make them allies or a count-as unit for your army. EX-Zealots(Zerkers) Zealots are crazed worshippers of the gods. It is said that their are given visons from the gods(Mostly Khorne) and they go berzerks, charging into the enemeis of chaos. Modelling-khorne symbols removed and 2 ccw and no bunny ears I know very little about their Legion compositon and tactics. So any help and or comments would be great. Here a link for you. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Word_Bearers A finally here my fluffy friendly 1000pts list for you Hq Prince-155pts Wings Warptime Troops 1 Champion with 9 marine-235pts IoCG power Weapon 2 Flamers Rhino 1 Champion with 9 marine-230pts IoCG 2 Melta-gun Rhino Heavy Defiler-150 Heavy Flamer 3 CC Weapons Summoned Daemon 1 Greater-100pts 10 Summoned lesser-130 Feel free to change any thing you want. :D Hope this helps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164434-new-word-bearers-army/#findComment-1933519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Disciple Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Welcome to the Path of the Word Brother. While the Word Bearers do look down on worship of only one god. For berserkers I see more of a sisters repenta style penitant warrior. The background I use is that they are disgraced warriors who fight for redemption by purging the unbeleivers. Its a lot like the mentality of the crusaders, beleiving they are fighting to absolve their sins in the eyes of the church. Other than that the Word Bearers fight like any of the other Legions. Just remember the golden rule its your army so have fun with it. Disciple Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164434-new-word-bearers-army/#findComment-1933576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Hadafix Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 you may want to read Dark Apostle and Dark Disiple for some back ground Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164434-new-word-bearers-army/#findComment-1933638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 as the others have said WB really don't used cult troops b/c the don't worship 1 god over another. The only cult troops I can really see getting away with and still calling your army fluffy is brzrkrs, but used as fanatics, the most zealot of the zealots, instrad of brzrkrs. I would either just use reg. csm models armed w/ bp&ccw, or if you do use the brzrkr models, file off all the khorne symbols and either cut/file off bunny ears or just bit order a sprue of reg csm heads, probably only cost a couple of $$. Paint them up like WB's not brzrkrs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164434-new-word-bearers-army/#findComment-1934054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 The modeling and cult issue has already been addressed so I'll keep it to the composition and tactics part. :lol: Now then, for both of composition and tactics it varies a great deal between individual Hosts since it all is decided by the Apostle in charge, who in turn decide depending on the visions and prophesies he is given by the Gods. Which in turn have lead to a great many instances of the Legion displaying tactics that makes no sense what so ever. Like completely forfeiting armor or anti-armor. The most reoccurring theme however is that the Host generally is broken down in squads of 12 Marines, and that once the order has been given the Word Bearers will push on until either the Apostle blows it off, or they all are dead. TDA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164434-new-word-bearers-army/#findComment-1934087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Eleysium Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 Thanks for all the rapid responses guys. I really appreciate all the input and will take it all to mind when making my new army. The only thing that stinks is finding out that the Word Bearers rarely dedicate themselves to one god. The reasonbeing is thatno was planning on using the World Eater Upgrade packs from Forgeworld, but I was going to use the Word Bearer shoulder pads from GW instead of the World Eater ones that come in the set. Do you guys think this would still be acceptable? Do the Word Bearers employnlots of armor? Because I want to use Predators and Land Raiders. I ordered Dark Apostle today, so thank you for reccomending it. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164434-new-word-bearers-army/#findComment-1934429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 WB can use all the armor they want, as DA sz it is up to the vision of the dark apostle (that being you ;) ). But putting WE upgrades on them as well as WB shoulder pads would look quite off, as they are 2 completely different legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164434-new-word-bearers-army/#findComment-1934496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Eleysium Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 WB can use all the armor they want, as DA sz it is up to the vision of the dark apostle (that being you ;) ).But putting WE upgrades on them as well as WB shoulder pads would look quite off, as they are 2 completely different legions. The World Eaters upgrade sprues from forgeworld only display the world eaters heraldynon the shpulder pads. They are just nicer berzerker models than the ones GW currently sells. So, with the exception of the Khorne heraldry I do not see a problem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164434-new-word-bearers-army/#findComment-1934698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askari Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Also princes are nice but if you want to field a "Count as dark apostle" an unmarked lord with daemon weapon would be the best bet. The basic guidelines are no cult troops or marked units. the only acceptable icon if you're strictly fluffy is Chaos glory. other than that the wordbearers are a very flexible and customizable force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164434-new-word-bearers-army/#findComment-1936114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 cults and summoned daemons are fine i think Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164434-new-word-bearers-army/#findComment-1936324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 yeah only cults are untrue to WB fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164434-new-word-bearers-army/#findComment-1937012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 cults and summoned daemons are fine i think You think wrong. Daemons are fine, no cults. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164434-new-word-bearers-army/#findComment-1937134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutt-Man! Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I think the WB's lean more into engagement warfare rather then ambush, tactical withdrawls and pincer attacks (draw enemies into a two front attack). They are more of a spearhead style llegion, overwhelm too fast and overtake the enemy before they gain any momentum. Attacking with a balanced effect, trying to have a basic marine take on many roles with many comrades that do the same near him. Early engagements are the fanatics, the devout marines of the bearers legion and some daemon support, as casualties rain on and their devotion is spent having their devotion to the war known then daemon support in large number is sent as the second phase of the attack. While the first wave takes care of the specialists, the hard nail fights when the enemies best units are worn thin then the use of the daemon is made apparent in the large number they reinforce. At least thats how I see them working on a standard basis. Aside from all the preaching and 'recruiting' they do. I wouldnt be surprised if a full tank engagement was sent for the first wave. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164434-new-word-bearers-army/#findComment-1937296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askari Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Actually Word bearers use heavy support from cultists and daemons as cannon fodder in the first wave while the marines act as shock troops. None of them dedicate themselves at all to a single go so no marks on troops and especially not the lord. Word bearer's force organization changes at the whim of the dark Apostle and they can often field odd formations such as ones with no tanks or completely devoid of anti-tank weapons or even combinations that would seem tactically imprudent. of course no one ever questions this because the Dark apostles are the mouthpieces of the gods an Lorgar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164434-new-word-bearers-army/#findComment-1937333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Actually Word bearers use heavy support from cultists in the chaos forum by cult units we mean zerkers /pms/NM/1ksons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164434-new-word-bearers-army/#findComment-1937755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askari Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I was referring to Mutt-man's post. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164434-new-word-bearers-army/#findComment-1940024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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