white_charisma Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I'm working on a pre-heresy Emperor's Children marine with very minor conversion work done. The only real converting that needed to be done to get the look I wanted, was to reposition the wrist of the marine, and fill in some joints with a little green stuff. The marine is on one knee, bowing to the Emperor. And another showing the details. The left arm is finished, nothing more is going to be done to the main part of the model; eg torso, legs, head, right arm, backpack. I am wondering what I should do for the left arm. What I have so far, the positioning of the arm is interfering with the clearance of the bolt pistol he's holding. The arm is in a resting position, hand closed to fist, hanging in front of him. I'm open to suggestions if somebody has some good ideas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother SRM Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I'd guess hand resting on top of the pistol, resting on his knee if you could position that, or on the ground by his knee. You could probably position that with a straight out chainsword or pistol arm and change the hand around. I like the idea though - going to be in use for games or just a display piece? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-1934822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Ravensong Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I would suggest having his fist on the ground, a powerfist would be interesting to see like that. You could also have him laying a sheathed powersword or chainsword out in front of himself as a sign of fealty (as in "my blade is yours to use as you see fit"), or perhaps drawing it from a sheath behind his back. I think that'd be epic. With the laying down the sword thing it might also be a good idea to have the boltpistol lain down with it. Edit: I had something like this in mind when I saw it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-1934908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 it's pretty nice but it'd look even more amazing if he were offering his bolter up to the emp :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-1935006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother DjoulZ Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I think he would look too agressive if he was drawing a blade from its sheath. IMO, the fist on the ground would look great. Or you could have him holding a banner pole. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-1935172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_charisma Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 Thanks for all the suggestions guys, I really appreciate it. I think I'm going to try to pull off the 'hand on knee pose'. Brother SRM - The model is just going to be a display piece. General - Thanks for the picture, definitely helped. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-1935327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I love the idea, and the pose, just one thing is niggling me. If it's a pre-heresey Emperor's Children marine I think you should try modifying the helmet or maybe using either a mark iv or 'crusader' type one if you can get hold of/have them, simply because the mark vii wasn't made until after the heresy. Nothing major, but I feel it would add to the older look you're going for. Look forward to seeing how you progress with this :) Â James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-1935782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonkin Arenis Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Thanks for all the suggestions guys, I really appreciate it. I think I'm going to try to pull off the 'hand on knee pose'.Brother SRM - The model is just going to be a display piece. General - Thanks for the picture, definitely helped. Â too late, huh? :) Â Still, I was thinking, maybe, do the kneeling/praying pose from DoW SM's (when they're capturing a point) Â Just my idea B) Â Arenis Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-1935788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_charisma Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 too late, huh? B)  Still, I was thinking, maybe, do the kneeling/praying pose from DoW SM's (when they're capturing a point)  Just my idea :)  Arenis  Its not to late, I am still working on the mini, would you happen to have a picture of what your describing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-1936109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonkin Arenis Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 too late, huh? :P  Still, I was thinking, maybe, do the kneeling/praying pose from DoW SM's (when they're capturing a point)  Just my idea :(  Arenis   Its not to late, I am still working on the mini, would you happen to have a picture of what your describing.  Can't find a picture atm, just let me get on the game, take a screenshot and put it up here...  Give me a day, as I have to go out for the evening...  Arenis Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-1936749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEmperorsChampion Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I feel as if kneeling marines are the new obsession. And I like it! Â I think it very accurately captures the feel of religious fervor in particular SM chapters. I think either the PF on the ground or the hand on the hilt of the sword (Like This) Only take the hat out of his hand and put his hand on the hilt of his sheathed sword, resting. Â Let me know if this makes sense to you. Â EDIT: You could also have alternatively the arm reaching up grasping the hilt of a sword that has been plunged into the ground.... A sort of support if you will. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-1937496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_charisma Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 Update. The model is going to be a Pre-heresy Emperor's Children kneeling either before his Primarch or before the Emperor of Mankind. I made this quick mock up of what the final product should look like. As you can see, the wing on the left shoulder pauldron will be attached as well as greenstuff modeled to finish the Emperor's Children icon. The left hand also needs to have some greenstuff molded between the fingers and the gauntlet. This last picture gives you a lot better look at the hand work that needs to be done, also where the EC icon will be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-2038532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naysmith Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Nice Job! Â Cant wait to see it finished and painted. Â cya Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-2038656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sensei Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 The pose is really nice. I'm a bit sceptic about the shoulder symbol size and the Mk7 armour and especially helmet (try grabbing a FW Mk4 one or a Black templar). But congrats on the idea. Â DS Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-2038721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryJohnny Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 This model looks amazing. Definitely has the "I'm in your servitude your holiness" feel to it. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-2039370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Toddius Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 To me this isn't so much about servitude, but prayer and meditation before/after a battle. Â I agree that the wing is a little big, my suggestion would be to cut a serg banner skull/wing off and then cut the left wing off, glue the skull unto the forward lower area of the pad with the wing as flat as comfortable parallel to the main shoulder pad surface. Â Cool concept :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-2039376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I REALLY like this guy! <nicks idea for later>  I think you have captured the essence of humility in the pose, which I suppose is a little ironic considering he's going to be EC. All the same, the pose works. I definitely could see something similar for Black Templars.  Very inspirational. Thank you for sharing!   * Also got a giggle looking at the first pic. I could imagine one of those motivational posters with the picture as and the text at the bottom:  CONFIDENT  Stopping to pray, knowing that Necrons are right behind you  Cheers, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-2039419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtNACHO Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 Well they have no arms and he at least has one arm, a bolt pistol, and the Emperor's blessing... wait... There were no Necron in Pre-Heresy! Lets say he is an Imperial Fist, yeah that works :) Â Please someone go make that motivational poster right now please :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-2039488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
averykess Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 that is an awesome pose. I'd have made the left arm holding a sword reverse grip with the point in the ground. Â something like this http://gl.ict.usc.edu/Data/LightStage/thum...ht_kneeling.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-2040194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_charisma Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 I just got back from Games Day Chicago a couple of days ago and ended up buying the Red Scorpion sprue and used some of the bitz to do some conversions. This is the fruits of my labor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-2063796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal van Trapp Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 i like, i like very much, the fingers look a bit rough but other than that top notch work Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-2063805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Such a simple conversion but stunning results, really. I can't wait to see this finished. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-2063876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackblade68 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 I like the helmet. But I do not like the left hand. what about doing something like a fist on the chest or something? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-2064079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eberious Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Agreed, if you have a missile launcher SM left arm then use that, or a fist on held against the chest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-2064091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_charisma Posted August 1, 2009 Author Share Posted August 1, 2009 I was trying to get the fingers around the legs, the pictures make the hand look a lot worse than it actually is because of the resizing. The fist on the chest sounds like a good idea. Ill have to look into that, thanks guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/164553-kneel-before-him/#findComment-2066979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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