Spacefrisian Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Ok i know peeps stated that you don't get an extra attack with it but now i'am a little bit confused. Why you might ask. 1st: of the Chooser grants +1 Attack if the bearer is only wielding 1 Weapon. 2nd: the stormshield is listed as a piece of wargear in the Spacemarine codex so technicly not a weapon. Can anyone explain where they find the ruling of the no extra attack with stormshield? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165302-stormshield-and-chooser-of-the-slain/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedark Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Q - Do I get extra attacks while my Rune Priest has a CotS (Chooser of the Slain), Runic Staff, and Storm Shield?A - No. A Chooser of the Slain allows the Rune Priest to count as having an additional close combat weapon (ie +1 attack). The Runic Staff counts as a Close Combat Weapon. The Storm Shield says that models equipped with it can never claim the +1 attack bonus for being armed with two close combat weapons. While the intent of the wording is probably to say that the Storm Shield is not a Close Combat Weapon, we have to go by the rules as written, not the probable intent. You do not gain +1 attack for a Chooser of the Slain/Runic Staff while equipped with a Storm Shield. From FAQ http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=147859 Hope that helps D. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165302-stormshield-and-chooser-of-the-slain/#findComment-1945247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Yeah, note that its got nothing to do with wether its a weapon or not... but stormshields specificly have a rule that cancels out the bonus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165302-stormshield-and-chooser-of-the-slain/#findComment-1945450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skrubb Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Q - Do I get extra attacks while my Rune Priest has a CotS (Chooser of the Slain), Runic Staff, and Storm Shield?A - No. A Chooser of the Slain allows the Rune Priest to count as having an additional close combat weapon (ie +1 attack). The Runic Staff counts as a Close Combat Weapon. I am ok with the rules for the storm shield, but this answer brings up another question. Does the rune staff count as a weapon? I never thought it did. Since 2nd ed, that is. The wargear section only says that it counts as a psychic hood. The summary says the same. And in the summary it is not listed under closed combat weapons. I have never seen it covered by a faq. I did not even realise there was doubt about this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165302-stormshield-and-chooser-of-the-slain/#findComment-1969808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Ok i know peeps stated that you don't get an extra attack with it but now i'am a little bit confused. Why you might ask. 1st: of the Chooser grants +1 Attack if the bearer is only wielding 1 Weapon. 2nd: the stormshield is listed as a piece of wargear in the Spacemarine codex so technicly not a weapon. Can anyone explain where they find the ruling of the no extra attack with stormshield? Its a weapon for the use of hands.. but that doesnt matter for this. Look at the wargear section of the space marine codex. Youll see there that a model equipped with one specificly doesnt get +1A for having two CCWs. Since a CoTS gives you +1A as if you had two CC weapons you cant get the bonus. See? I am ok with the rules for the storm shield, but this answer brings up another question. Does the rune staff count as a weapon? I never thought it did. Since 2nd ed, that is. The wargear section only says that it counts as a psychic hood. The summary says the same. And in the summary it is not listed under closed combat weapons. I have never seen it covered by a faq. I did not even realise there was doubt about this. I was under that impression for a long time. Apparently they did a minimalist reprint/update of our codex. Not only is the Runic Staff a weapon in that version, it also costs a whopping 25 points. *wince* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165302-stormshield-and-chooser-of-the-slain/#findComment-1969811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skrubb Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 25 points?! Øøh... my favorite priest is equipped with a lightning claw and staff anyway. So I do not need it to be a weapon. (The ruling ruling that a cots and a ligthning claw is unfortunate, but is clearer in the most recent codex SM. As for storm shield, it is less clear. I hope the new C:SW will grant a bonus attack for both.) But what I wanted to ask was: Are both codeci and both costs official? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165302-stormshield-and-chooser-of-the-slain/#findComment-1969833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 As far as I know the newer cost would be official, but Im not sure wich that is. Ive never had a TO look at me oddly for taking the 10pt nonweapon staff however. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165302-stormshield-and-chooser-of-the-slain/#findComment-1969892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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