Melissia Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Fairly reasonable newspost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165542-inducted-guard-questions/page/2/#findComment-1956957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Combining WH/DH/IG, our poor inquisition has now over 60 units (if you count special characters) to use... It all depend what "mother" army list you choose and what vision you have! If you take the rules "BoLS" preffered way (0-1 LR squadron) You could have an inquisitor freak show with assassins, repentias, 2 platoons with heavy weapons, 2 x 3 Penitent engines and 2 Leman Russes! Quite a cool army! Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165542-inducted-guard-questions/page/2/#findComment-1957015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevianID Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I really dont like the BOLS 'preferred' way... The DH/WH entry says Leman Russ Battle Tank, the IG codex HAS a Leman Russ Battle Tank, to argue that you get 3 Leman Russ Vanquishers is just plain wrong. BoLS goes on to say that only taking a single LRBT is the worst interpretation... :cuss? How is taking what we 1) always took and 2) still have the ability to take, the worst interpretation? That seems like a fast and loose way to play, with little regard to balance or precedent. Sentinels also should not be taken in friendly games unless your opponent agrees with it without you needing to 'make a case', since they are different sentinels. Yes, Scout Sentinels are nearly identical to the old 'Sentinel' but in order to keep things nice a friendly then when playing someone you dont know, instead of arguing WHY you should be able to take them, dont take them. Also, just taking them and not explaining what you are doing to an opponent is basicly cheating, even if you didnt intend that. So at the end of the day, the interaction between a 3rd ed codex and a 5th ed codex definately cant be taken for granted by one party (the DH/WH player) to gain an advantage versus another player (The DH/WH's opponent.) Its just fair play... if your opponent broadsides you with some questionable stuff, wouldnt you jump on them for it? Who actually WANTS to put someone in that position? Thus, the most restrictive interpretation should be the best for all parties until a FAQ comes out, and seeing as the book isnt even out yet, it will be a while before a FAQ arrives. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165542-inducted-guard-questions/page/2/#findComment-1957439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissia Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Yes, it was their opinion fo the worst. It is the most technically correct, but in their opinion, the least in keeping with the spirit of the rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165542-inducted-guard-questions/page/2/#findComment-1957443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Personally, and the accepted way in my gaming group, is that 1 LRBT can be inducted. Anyways, I must say that I usually prefer exorcists. I'm really looking more to inducting a platoon with maxed heavy weapons. Possibly a IG list with lots of psykers (HQ and elites) with allied WH Inquisitor-lord and assassin as a radical list... Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165542-inducted-guard-questions/page/2/#findComment-1957740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Frankly, I'm more concerned with mkerr's claim that joining a single GK Hero to an IG unit automatically bestows The Shrouding on the unit he's joined! How can this be? When shooting at that unit, you're targeting the unit, not the single model with shrouding! The reverse is just as true. Say you join an inquisitor to a unit of GKs. The shrouding works because you're shooting at the unit, not the one guy that doesn't happen to have shrouding. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165542-inducted-guard-questions/page/2/#findComment-1958119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I really agree with you here. For "the Aegis", the opponent is by RAW not targeting a Grey Knight unit or character. He is targettting a IG unit that includes a GK character. As for the Shrouding, the opponent is not shooting at a unit of Grey Knights. If the wording was "shooting at Grey Knights" instead, one could make a case the the GK character is being shot at like the rest of the IG unit because the key word is not "targeting". Of course, the French codex uses the phrase "Chaque fois qu'une unité ennemie tire sur des Chevaliers Gris..." which would translate as: "Each time an enemy unit shoots at Grey Knights". But that's really grasping at straws and I wouldn't even try it at a friendly game. Saving an IG unit from being shot at is simply not worth paying for the next round of beer (you know, to calm down the booing!). Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165542-inducted-guard-questions/page/2/#findComment-1958211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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