Sgt. Farney Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I'm just trying go figure out how many attacks my guys get and the 5th ed. rulebook ( Im a true newb so its the only one I got) says pistols are CCW .. storm bolters are held in one hand.... but for that matter so are some Combi-weapons i've seen... which guns do/ do not confer a +1A in melee? EDIT... also, can a melta-bomb be used on tyranids? as they dont have vehicles ? but they do have big nasties ( HT, Carn... ect) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165840-is-a-storm-bolter-a-ccw/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood_raven_240 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 As far as I know, Bolt Pistols and Plasma Pistols :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165840-is-a-storm-bolter-a-ccw/#findComment-1952101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Storm bolters are held in one hand for people wearing terminator armour, and characters.... in fact they are bulkier than boltguns. But that aside the rules clearly state the only guns that count as CCW are those that are classified as pistols... stormbolters are not. Nice try though. *EDIT* You can add hand flamers and inferno pistols to the list of guns that give the +1A for multi-ccw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165840-is-a-storm-bolter-a-ccw/#findComment-1952102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Farney Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share Posted April 12, 2009 O.K. you do not get +1A because of the thunder hammer / power fist rule ... so you give them a special ccw that is not 2 handed , and you give them a ... Bolt pistol or Plasma pistol ... that seems the only options ... right? (storm bolter and LC does not give +1A..... RATS!! ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165840-is-a-storm-bolter-a-ccw/#findComment-1952147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Stormbolter only gives +1 attack for Grey Knights. Its in their special rules. No one else. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165840-is-a-storm-bolter-a-ccw/#findComment-1952179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood_raven_240 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Stormbolter only gives +1 attack for Grey Knights. Its in their special rules. No one else. Really? :) In addition to their Statline? :tu: :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165840-is-a-storm-bolter-a-ccw/#findComment-1952184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 That is corrct.... If you want +1A using C:SM then your almost always going to have to give up your bolter (or equilivant). Of course you could always take Kantor (I think), or a company standard as both will give anyone in range +1A (non-comunalitive) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165840-is-a-storm-bolter-a-ccw/#findComment-1952185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Stormbolter only gives +1 attack for Grey Knights. Its in their special rules. No one else. Really? :huh: In addition to their Statline? :blink: :devil: Only for Power Armoured Grey Knights, and in return it also prevents them getting a bonus from charging... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165840-is-a-storm-bolter-a-ccw/#findComment-1952187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Stormbolter only gives +1 attack for Grey Knights. Its in their special rules. No one else. Really? :huh: In addition to their Statline? :blink: :devil: Grey knights have 1 base attack. With their stormbolter and nemesis force weapon they have 2. This is only for the power armor guys, the extra attack with a stormbolter doesn't work for the terminators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165840-is-a-storm-bolter-a-ccw/#findComment-1952197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood_raven_240 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Ah, okay, I get it now :blink: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165840-is-a-storm-bolter-a-ccw/#findComment-1952200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grendelsbane Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 If you have two pistols would you get the +1 attack in CC? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165840-is-a-storm-bolter-a-ccw/#findComment-1952271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Yes you would, but they would have no special rules, so it would be at users I and S. *EDIT* Check BRB P.42 top left of the page about 'Normal Close Combat Weapons', it specifically states that pistols count as a CCW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/165840-is-a-storm-bolter-a-ccw/#findComment-1952282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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