theredcorsair Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 (FYI, would people go for a collection of TSOALR characters?) http://www.hughesd.co.uk/tsoalr/smik.jpg May be taken as an upgrade sergeant for 50 pts. in a Sterngaurd squad VETERAN TROOPER SMIK Normal Stats but with -1 initiative Overpainted Mass Smik has been painted over hundreds of times and has accumulated a great deal of weight. Grants Smik the slow and purposeful movement, and +2 Strength Poisonous paint and brake fluid fumes Smik always wounds on a 3+ or better, and makes enemies in base contact lose 1 to their attack characteristic (to a minimum of 1) Under many paint schemes Smik utterly represents the development of the chapter and makes the unit he is with fearless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Of Malfeasance X Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 that's hysterical. Way to take one for the team, Smik! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1959952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gil galed Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 lol, classic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1960011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted April 19, 2009 Author Share Posted April 19, 2009 Haha! Glad you like it! EDIT: I changed my avatar accordingly. Glory to the pine branch! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1960126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share Posted April 20, 2009 Minor changes made. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1960722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM THE AWESOME Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 :blink: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1960743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share Posted April 20, 2009 Have you guys heard of input? I appreciate the smileys but as with everything it could use editing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1961725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM THE AWESOME Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Have you guys heard of input? I appreciate the smileys but as with everything it could use editing. Okay, fine. I'd say 50 points, his abilities aren't too overpowering or anything, but SnP Sternguard could be pretty dang nasty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1963700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Stalker Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Only he is SnP, he does not grant this for his squad (so it's downgrade, not upgrade). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1963748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted April 22, 2009 Author Share Posted April 22, 2009 Yes, I did that. It fits with the fluff and is used to keep the cost down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1964033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM THE AWESOME Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Oh, also some of his abilities are contradictory if we are concerned about function here, -1 I and SnP, +2S and always wounds on a 3+. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1964183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted April 22, 2009 Author Share Posted April 22, 2009 Well, I didn't just want him to be a character that just slows the unit down and makes them fearless. I wanted him to be massive and overbearing, thus the large strength and brake fluids. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1964234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM THE AWESOME Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 No, I think you misunderstand me: +2 S doesn't matter if he always wounds on a 3+, similarly -1 I is barely going to matter as he is SnP and strikes last anyway. I think you should keep it, but just remember it doesn't actually do anything. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1964288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 No, I think you misunderstand me: +2 S doesn't matter if he always wounds on a 3+, similarly -1 I is barely going to matter as he is SnP and strikes last anyway. I think you should keep it, but just remember it doesn't actually do anything. :jaw: I always like that. It pads the fluff while still keeping balance on the model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1965194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted April 29, 2009 Author Share Posted April 29, 2009 What about a jackhammer carrier tank? As I said, we could make a TSOALR collection. Maybe even a Codex: Emperors Pointy Sticks. *A smile creeps up my computer lit face* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1970716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 What about a definite points cost, I'm clawing at 70. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1978328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted May 8, 2009 Author Share Posted May 8, 2009 Any more comments? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1981662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Sasha Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Additional rule: "I can't get a shot past the fat guy" Instead of allocating wounds to the whole unit before rolling saves as usual, each successful (saveable) wound is rolled against Snik until he goes down; any remaining wounds are then allocated as normal. Also known as the "Pie-eating human shield" rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1981674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share Posted May 9, 2009 Additional rule:"I can't get a shot past the fat guy" Instead of allocating wounds to the whole unit before rolling saves as usual, each successful (saveable) wound is rolled against Snik until he goes down; any remaining wounds are then allocated as normal. Also known as the "Pie-eating human shield" rule. I think I'll use that rule actually, but to make it more fair, for each hit you roll it and on a 5 or 4+ he gets hit instead of equally allocating. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1981829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castus Xanthis Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 IIRC SnP models attack at regular initiative and +2 S helps against light vehicles and is required when determining instant death. with S6 he would instantly kill guard officers and other T3 models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1986698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted May 13, 2009 Author Share Posted May 13, 2009 IIRC SnP models attack at regular initiative and +2 S helps against light vehicles and is required when determining instant death. with S6 he would instantly kill guard officers and other T3 models. Well, its a better upgrade then (yay!) But what I really need here is a points cost, any takers? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1986939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castus Xanthis Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 I would say 50. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1987927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share Posted May 15, 2009 I need more than one opinion, yet again, any takers? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1989155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM THE AWESOME Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 50 pts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1989753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 50 points it is then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166420-veteran-trooper-smik/#findComment-1993551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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