greatcrusade08 Posted April 26, 2009 Author Share Posted April 26, 2009 What we are arguing about here, is the english language, and we know GW has already set a precedent in this matter, by not using the correct terminology on many occasions. Quoted myself, its the first sign of madness.... Like i said we are getting hung up on a poorly used word. GC08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Thats assuming it is a poorly used word... It may be... it may not be... we cannot know the intent of the word... However as it stands, poorly worded or not, there is no alternative but to resolve hits from the relic blade at Str6 regardless of modifiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Gothard Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 But GC08 it is not just the poorly used/defined word. Its that the language of the two rules (FC and RBs) makes them incompatible. So my relic blade resolves it hits against you at S6, but when i have furious charge it gets a S bonus... You get a S bonus to your Strength Characteristic, though. The Relic Blade just resolves itself at S6. Its apples and oranges. It would be like claiming that my Bolt pistol gets +1 in the shooting phase because I have furious charge. The only reason we have to think they (FC and RBs) are connected AT ALL is because they both happen in the assault phase, and FC usually takes effect on attacks similar to RB attacks. ... However, just because GW cannot write rules doesn't mean we have to pretend we cannot understand rules. You are free to play it as a +1 to RB attacks at home in your gaming group, but the point of this is just that you should not expect that everyone will play it so, because that is not actually the way the rules allow it to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted April 26, 2009 Author Share Posted April 26, 2009 As a last resort your right, until an FAQ is released clearing the matter up, however its probably best to bring this up with your opponent before the game. I would be more than happy to allow my opponent to roll at S7 for relic blades and furious charge. GC08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrythesecond Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 I've read through this thread with some interest. I've gotta put myself on the side that says the Relic Blade resolves at S6, regardless of whatever bonuses, modifiers, powers or anything else the model's attacks may be affected by. When Matt Ward wrote the Codex (and we have to assume the rules governing the use of Relic Blades), he obviously worded it that way for a reason. Perhaps to ensure that SM IC's couldn't hurt T10 creatures without a PF or TH with the loss of Initiative that brings? Who knows what goes through a Codex-writer's mind... Anyhoop, it absolutely, definitely says that it's attacks are resolved at S6. So when those dice are a-tumblin', you're only looking on the S6 row of the To Wound Chart... Obviously that's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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