Chaos Lord Shamrockius Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Hey guys and gals.... Just been having a little play with my bits box and some bluetac and decided that a weapons platform for some of my iron warriors might be a nice idea. You know the sort of thing, one of their tech-heads has gone a little crazy with the welding and daemonic influences in putting several guns together on a platform in order to shoot down anyone wandering the way of an objective/forward base etc. From a modelling point of view, it'd clear my box of a load of left over parts from tanks, dreadnaughts and the like as well as some spare parts of tank bulkheads, railings etc. From a gaming point of view, how do you think this would stand up? Fluff wise, given the TL autocannon, assault cannon, missile launcher, lascannons, bolters, heavy bolters, Meltas and the like piling up in my box/were "salvaged" by Iron Warriors over the millenia in the way they seem to. Points wise, I was thinking that as it would have to have 1 operative/firer and maybe 1 loader, You're probably talking 50 or 60 pts for just the base and CSMs to use it + whatever the codex costs for each gun, which could run up quite a way, depending how crazy a platform you wanted to build. Would it need an armour value? Or would opponents just be firing at the operatives? Kill 2 operatives, it's useless. Kill 1 and the other has to roll a D6 at the start of each turn it wants to fire. On the first turn a roll of 1 means all ammo is spent and he must spend that turn reloading; a 2+ meaning he carries on. For every turn after that, if a 1 is not rolled, he has a -1 on each roll (ie 2nd turn he has to roll a 3+, 3rd turn a 4+ etc). You could in essence, go wild with all sorts of differing heavy weapons on there, but it being that it can only fire at 1 target at a time, given how it only has one guy targeting it. Thoughts? Ideas? If it'd a dead duck, please say so... it may just be me with waaaay too much time on my hands and an overcrowded bits box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166804-weapons-platforms/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-S6 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 There are already rules in place for weapon batteries - see your big rule book. Make the basic unit one guy per weapon and have an option to add ablative crew up to two crew per weapon. Or, if you wanted automated turrets, see the Tarantula Sentry Guns in the downloadable Imperial Armour 2 update. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166804-weapons-platforms/#findComment-1964612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuNCHBiZZLe Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I like the Idea,for rules why not just counts as oblits? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166804-weapons-platforms/#findComment-1964777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberrant_unc Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 This sounds like an awesome fluffy way to do counts as Oblits - your iron warriors weapon pack rat squad! Just stick the stuff onto three 40mm bases and you are good to go! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166804-weapons-platforms/#findComment-1965000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Lord Shamrockius Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 I like the Oblits idea, but i was thinking more of a "1 trigger fires all" kind of platform... what does everyone think? Or would the Oblits work better? What I currently have blutacked together wouldn't fit on a 40mm base... closer to a 60mm maybe... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166804-weapons-platforms/#findComment-1965104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuNCHBiZZLe Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 If you can work out rules for them awsome(and please post)But I've been lookin' for a way to put oblits back into my IW and this would be perfect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166804-weapons-platforms/#findComment-1965175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 What you could do... if you really wanted to go with the idea of an Oblit counts-as... is make some sort of platform with an Iron Warriors engineer operating a turret, and give it spindle spider-like legs. In essence, a small Defiler, only man-operated. It's definitely look nifty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166804-weapons-platforms/#findComment-1965335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Humongous Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I'd got with Obliterator rules if you want to use them in normal games (especially pickup and tourney games). The two wounds and save would be from the "field generator" in the gun platform. Doesn't matter if they are a bit big for a 40mm bases, since its an "opponent consent" conversion anyhow. I doubt many people would complain that you made your oblits easier targets. For Apocalypse games, you could field them as Thudfire Cannons (I think its called) or write up a custom datasheet. However, I would steer clear of "one trigger fires all" because typically a single model can only fire one weapon, unless an MC or vehicle. Maybe take a cue from orcs and give the weapon random variable stats... or, chaos being more technical, player chosen variable stats like this: Multi Cannon: 48", Str X+2, AP X, heavy 3, twinlinked, "gets hot" special- X can be any desired number from 0 to 7. AP 7 counts as AP -. AP 0 counts as AP 1 and ignores cover. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166804-weapons-platforms/#findComment-1965337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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