boreas Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Creed (from the new IG codex) can give "scout" to a unit in his army... Now, I can see an allied repentia unit coming on Outflank! Add an astropath and you get +1 to reserve rolls and a re-roll for the side! Ok, it's not the game-breaking find of the week, but it might get my girls on the table! Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166903-creed-and-repentias/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissia Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Does Creed have to join the unit to give it outflank? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166903-creed-and-repentias/#findComment-1965956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted April 24, 2009 Author Share Posted April 24, 2009 No... He wouldn't be able to since he has to be with his command squad (he is not an independent character!). He can also give this to a unit of vehicles, but I don't think there's a legal way to have both him and penitent engines in an army list. But with Creed (use an Inquisitor model), a Canoness with retinue in a valkyrie, repentias outflanking, 2 squads of 12 sisters in valkyries and a few squads of veterans in you get a nice and legal Ordo Hereticus strike force! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166903-creed-and-repentias/#findComment-1965996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewm9 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 No... He wouldn't be able to since he has to be with his command squad (he is not an independent character!). He can also give this to a unit of vehicles, but I don't think there's a legal way to have both him and penitent engines in an army list. But with Creed (use an Inquisitor model), a Canoness with retinue in a valkyrie, repentias outflanking, 2 squads of 12 sisters in valkyries and a few squads of veterans in you get a nice and legal Ordo Hereticus strike force! You're right there is no way to use him and Penitent Engines in a normal game. I'm guessing you can do this in Apocalypse though. About the Valkyrie and sisters though, wouldn't you have to load the girls onto the Valkyries in the play area sinc ethey are not dedicated transports, but a fast attack choice? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166903-creed-and-repentias/#findComment-1966069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted April 24, 2009 Author Share Posted April 24, 2009 Nope, a unit can start the game in a non-dedicated transport (see under " Preparing reserves" p. 94 of the rulebook). In the case of a dedicated transport, only the unit it's dedicated to can start the game in it, though. Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166903-creed-and-repentias/#findComment-1966076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasarcq Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 It is an interesting idea to toy with. Repentia have the potential to get into CC without taking shooting casualties. They still would take wounds before striking back, but hey that would be just fun, if nothing else to see the stunned look on your opponent's face. Is there some restriction with Creed and priests? If so I can see why you couldn't field a penitent. Or are we going on the logic that the priest must come from the WH dex? Otherwise you could put a (WH) priest in the repentia squad (actually a good place for him giving those eviscerators re-rolls!). That way you could field penitent engines (if you really wanted to). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166903-creed-and-repentias/#findComment-1966191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tastytaste Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Even if you can do that Repentia are still lame in CC. Striking last and 3T and 2 attacks on the charge is not that scary. Though I love me some Repentia models and Neural Whips are not too bad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166903-creed-and-repentias/#findComment-1966213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted April 24, 2009 Author Share Posted April 24, 2009 It depends what you're up against... If you're playing against IG, those repentias can come on the board and assault one of those Leman Russ squadrons everyone is afraid of! Its still not a very efficient thing to do, but heck, it puts the fun back into Warhafunmmer! Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166903-creed-and-repentias/#findComment-1966231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prathios Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 It depends what you're up against... If you're playing against IG, those repentias can come on the board and assault one of those Leman Russ squadrons everyone is afraid of! Its still not a very efficient thing to do, but heck, it puts the fun back into Warhafunmmer! Phil You just said that, I can see it right there on the page... wow... :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166903-creed-and-repentias/#findComment-1966348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewm9 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Is there some restriction with Creed and priests? If so I can see why you couldn't field a penitent. Or are we going on the logic that the priest must come from the WH dex? Otherwise you could put a (WH) priest in the repentia squad (actually a good place for him giving those eviscerators re-rolls!). That way you could field penitent engines (if you really wanted to). You can't field the Penitent's a normal 40K game becuase if you are playing an IG army with Witchhunter support then you are allowed no Heavy Support choices and Penitent Engines are just that. B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166903-creed-and-repentias/#findComment-1966405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissia Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 And if you're playing a C:WH army with inducted Guard, you cannot take a command squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166903-creed-and-repentias/#findComment-1966530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasarcq Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Is there some restriction with Creed and priests? If so I can see why you couldn't field a penitent. Or are we going on the logic that the priest must come from the WH dex? Otherwise you could put a (WH) priest in the repentia squad (actually a good place for him giving those eviscerators re-rolls!). That way you could field penitent engines (if you really wanted to). You can't field the Penitent's a normal 40K game becuase if you are playing an IG army with Witchhunter support then you are allowed no Heavy Support choices and Penitent Engines are just that. <_< Oh yeah, duh. I feel stupid for missing that. I sold my penitents quite awhile ago and never liked how they ran anyway. So I don't give them much thought. Personally I'd maybe try repentia and two battle sister squads, still I find lower point / standard missions and allies lists sorta flop and the armies ran together will have poor synergy. I found that out with my SM base list with sisters. Even at a 2000 pt list things were just working against me. On the thought of Valkyries, to me its such a large model, it looks very cumbersome to place on a board with even basic 25% terrain. I have a hard enough time lining up templates sometimes with rhinos in built up areas. It may not be as bad as I think, but I have my doubts that it would be a viable platform to put SoBs in if I'm running a template heavy squad. It would be amusing to put dominions with 4 meltaguns though. Give the extra rhino to a BSSs squad or run an empty immolator. There will certainly be a few things in the new IG dex I will have too look into. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166903-creed-and-repentias/#findComment-1966568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marid Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I would suggest arcos, but I think this thread as gone too far from a PA discussion. Another thread was recently closed for discussion of IG armies with GK allies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166903-creed-and-repentias/#findComment-1966578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissia Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 And this one is not. If you want to restrict it to only Power Armor models, then we'd pretty much be restricted to the SIsters of Battle, Grey Knights, and Inquisitors. No discussion about retinue or =][= stormies, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166903-creed-and-repentias/#findComment-1966692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Mel Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 but heck, it puts the fun back into Warhafunmmer! Phil I have never said this on any forum because i hate the term .... but i actually for the first time in my life LOL-ed there i said it. on topic though, the new IG codex gives DH and WH players 142876 aka "tons" of new fun options, especially with the new special rules from special characters, this precedent started with SM. due to us "hunters" having an old codex from the times where all imperials could go around have fun, shop in the armoury and kick butt together, stuff like can happen, and what is best, it can happen legally! mel Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166903-creed-and-repentias/#findComment-1969774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 And the good thing about the IG codex is that pretty much everything can be used with =I= minies for added fluff! I'll be testing that list tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes! Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/166903-creed-and-repentias/#findComment-1969951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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