Nilsson Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Hmm, I've been thinking, and looking around (my search-fu ain't strong enough to find any posts regarding this matter). My Wolves are building towards a single Great Company, still yet to deside on whoms. Perhaps will even say it's an Lost Company and say it's "my own" fluffy so to say, though I would still like the ammount of stuff in it to be fluffy-correct. So, my questions to our great rune priests out there; what are the Great Companies numbers? My first thought was that they were rougly an Second Battle Company (in terms of organisation, ammount of Grey Hunters / Tacticals and so forth though then again, that might change from Company to Company. And by the way, with "numbers" I mean the ammount of squads of Grey Hunters, Blood Claws, Dreadnoughts, Long Fangs, Scouts, etc they have. Not their total number in marines. Anyone have any knowladge in this matter? Due to the fact as I said, I'm building up towards a Great Company. Currently I have 1x Wolf Lord 1x Wolf Guard Battle Leader 1x Rune Priest 1x Wolf Priest 3x Dreadnoughts 30x Grey Hunters 15x Blood Claws 8x Jet Pack Blood claws 10x Long Fangs "Armory" 1x Typhoon Land Speeder 2x Rhino 1x Land Raider 3x Drop Pods I know I am missing Wolf Guards, though working on those right now, will have to start with 10 Wolf Guard in TDA, 10 in PA. Perhaps I need more tanks, pods, transports etc? What do you guys think? Should this be an "Averge Sized Great Company? Best Regards; Nilsson Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167112-great-company/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Fang Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 There are tons of posts in this general area. I'll find you some links once the kids are asleep. Its your great company, take what you feel works, anything from 50-1000 marines is generally accepted to be great company sized, the rule of thumb I use is does it look right all setup together or to heavy way one... Long Fang update. Ok so heres a bunch of links of the general subject of size/makeup of a Great company. Great company structure How large is a great company I need 5 more HQ's - with GC list What is a great company But as I said, go with what you feel right. In case its helpful I have.... W.I.P Wolf Lord - thread floating about :D Ulrik the slayer (Wolf Preist) Sternhammer (Gamesday wolf priest) Rune preist Venerable dreadnought 2 dreadnoughts 6 wolf scouts 19 Wolf guard in terminator armor 8 wolf guard in PA (pack leaders for the most part) 5 x 10 grey hunters 3 x 15 blood claws 4 rhinos 2 Razorbacks (on order) 3 drop pods (on order) attack bike 2 landspeeders 3 x 5 long fangs Leman russ exterminator whirlwind 2 predators vindicator land raider land raider crusader baneblade Comes out at about 7000 points not including the bits I have on order. Long Fang Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167112-great-company/#findComment-1968740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek Grimfang Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 There was also something floating around here on how to make a "Standard APOC" company for Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167112-great-company/#findComment-1968784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I'd say that's probably a little small for a true Great Company. It could be a Lost Company, battered by combat losses but still going. However, most estimates put a Great Company at slightly larger than a standard Marine Company, and capable of providing its own armoury. Also, many GC's seem to have Priests/Dreads attacted to them on a semi permanent basis. To give you an idea of what I can field, as a smallish Great Company: Wolf Lord 2 WGBL (1 PA, 1 TDA) Wolf Priest (1PA, 1 TDA (WIP)) Rune Priest Upwards of 30 Wolf Guard (I get around the 20 fluff rule by saying that the Priests bodyguards (each has 4) are not part of the Company, but are his personal guardians) 3 Dreads - hopefully expanding upwards 10 Scouts 3x 6 Grey Hunters, each with a Razorback 2x 8 Grey Hunters (1 Pack WIP) 2x 14 Blood Claws 6 Blood Claw Bikes (3 WIP) Land Speeder 8 Long Fangs Armoury Vindicator 2 Predators Land Raider Crusader Land Raider Prometheous Fellblade 1 more Razorback Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167112-great-company/#findComment-1968833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dietrich Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I think it varies from about 150-250 men, mostly due to attrition of Blood Claws. It could be as small or as large as you want. Some think the Great Companies are up to 1000 men strong, but I think that's too high. They are reported to be larger than a Codex Astares company (roughly 100 men), but if that's 120 or 940, no one knows for certain. It is known that Grey Hunters are the core and largest segment of the Great Company. So, to stick with the fluff, make sure there are more GHs than all other models combined. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167112-great-company/#findComment-1968894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 i always refure to the 2nd eddition epic space wolf great company card so 20 wolf guard 100 grey hunters in 10 squads and then attached units of long fangs/blood claws remember that priests ,scouts and dreadnoughts are from the great wolfs household not the company one Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167112-great-company/#findComment-1968902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalodon Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 i always refure to the 2nd eddition epic space wolf great company card so 20 wolf guard 100 grey hunters in 10 squads and then attached units of long fangs/blood claws remember that priests ,scouts and dreadnoughts are from the great wolfs household not the company one I thought that old Great Company card had 12 Grey Hunter packs? I'll have to dig them out. I do remember that the BC's and LF's were bought in groups of 30 models. (6 bases on each card) So I built on the premise that a Great Company has roughly 200 Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167112-great-company/#findComment-1969369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 If your just back from campaign you might have a low as 80 marines, if your flush and full you might have 350 or so. Ive always felt that 260-300 was a nice solid number. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167112-great-company/#findComment-1969450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalodon Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 If your just back from campaign you might have a low as 80 marines, if your flush and full you might have 350 or so. Ive always felt that 260-300 was a nice solid number. I have absolutely no problem with those numbers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167112-great-company/#findComment-1969454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek Grimfang Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 My math for structure for a Co. is for every two full GH packs, there is one BC pack, and one LF pack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167112-great-company/#findComment-1969473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 My math for structure for a Co. is for every two full GH packs, there is one BC pack, and one LF pack. Sounds reasonable, considering that a Great Company may have a 'normal' or 'average' number of ten or so Grey Hunter packs. At least that's what I imagine, when determining the size of a Space Wolves Great Company. Sure there are variables and differences between all the company compositions, but I see a Great Company around the 200-300 mark in terms of Space Marine manpower. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167112-great-company/#findComment-1969572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roguemarine Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 What i have for my GC Wolf Lord PA, TDA, bike WGBL PA, TDA Rune Priest PA, bike Wolf priest PA, bike Venerable Dread MM, CCW 20 WG 16 on bikes 1 scout, 2 BC leaders 1 GH leader 10 scouts 2 iron priests on bikes 6 x 10 Grey hunters 8 x 15 blood claws 3 x 6 Blood claws on bikes 3 x speeders 2 x LR's 2 x LRC's 3 x Pred's 2x Vindies 2 x 5 Long fangs 10x drop pods I just didn't know when to stop buying SW's and still don't....gotta love them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/167112-great-company/#findComment-1970130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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