Looking for Witch Hunters specific sites

[Senseilord Ashahara]

"@Senseilord Ashahara: OP is a reference to "original poster" or "original post" I believe..."

 

Thought so. Cheers.

 

 

ap3 - good.

24" range also very good.

 

Tried out the new IG storm troop rules against a SM player on wednesday though rather unsportingly he skulked around cover for alot of the time.

And I prefer having good scoring units.

[glayvin34]

There are a ton of 40k/ WFB/ LotR sites out there, and the vast majority do not have Inquisitorial anything. If you want to do some looking, though, start at Turn Signals on a Landraider and/ or Bell of Lost Soul's Links Page, they must be within two degrees of every 40k site on the net. Unsurprisingly, B&C is the most focused on all things Power Armor, and I think has the best forums for that, hands down. Most other spots have maybe one Space Marines subforum, and I have never seen an Inquisition subforum outside of B&C. But that doesn't mean there isn't a ton of good tips out there, most web-savvy Inquisition players probably don't visit this site, so they post elsewhere.

[number6]

@Inq Nicole P.: Wow! Best wishes to you and your family. I have one son myself, and sometimes wish we'd decided to have more than that.

 

I hear ya with respect to the points efficiency of IG platoons. Just incredible! For the first time ever, I am at least tempted to add them in. And as with you, it would have to come at the cost of other things I dearly love. What to toss out? PAGKs? Seraphim? GKTs? Dreadnoughts? Inquisitor, assassin? I do like that this is a difficult decision to make. Definitely makes me feel like GW is doing the right thing. Unit selection should always be so painful.

[Inquisitor Fox]

My latest thought is to drop my Retributors (though it costs a faith point), trim the GKT's from 5 to 3 (with 2 psycannons), and use those points to afford the platoon.. if I trim elsewhere I may be able to add in an autocannon team to help make up for the lack of the retributors.. perhaps dropping my Seraphim's numbers down one or two (say a 5 girl squad w/ plasma pistol, power weapon, 2 twin-linked inferno pistols). Assuming 1850 points or so.

 

Of course, this also means I have to scrounge up 2 more plastic meltaguns and 2 heavy weapon teams ... *sigh* Maybe in a couple months I can squeeze in a unit or two among the new bags of diapers and the like we're going to need <_<

 

Thanks for the good wishes! The other two children are very excited, especially the youngest.. she gets to be a big sister now!

[boreas]

Funny how so many people have children and yet play with little warrior dolls! Can't wait to introduce my 2 girls to the hobby!

 

@Senseilord Ashahara: I think that if you can't find something, you should make it! If this forum (or rather sub-forum!) lacks non-SoB, non-GK threads, you should make some! As I stated previously, this is also what got me into the WHs. I deplore that, because they are really inefficient, those models are unused too often. I'd love it if more threads here where devoted to Inquisitorial/Ecclesiastic forces!

 

Phil

[DinoDoc]

Saying "I'm into the Ecclesiarchy, not the Sisters", is like saying "I'm into Imperial Guard Infantry, not Infantry Platoons". Gives me a reaction like "wait what? O.o"

Kind of like saying that I like Sisters but not Ordo Hereticus? :jaw:

[Melissia]

Saying "I'm into the Ecclesiarchy, not the Sisters", is like saying "I'm into Imperial Guard Infantry, not Infantry Platoons". Gives me a reaction like "wait what? O.o"

Kind of like saying that I like Sisters but not Ordo Hereticus? :P

No, that's only contradictory if you don't know anything about the two factions involved. The Sororitas have an agreement to help the Ordo Hereticus. This makes them about as much part of the inquisition as a Space MArine chapter which owes favors to a particular inquisitor. The Sisters of Battle ARE independant to the Inquisition, doing the vast majority of their work for the Ecclesiarchy. They are as much a part of the Inquisition as any other member of the Imperium of Man-- the Space Marine and Imperial Guard fight for the Inquisition as well, after all.

[number6]

No, that's only contradictory if you don't know anything about the two factions involved. The Sororitas have an agreement to help the Ordo Hereticus. This makes them about as much part of the inquisition as a Space MArine chapter which owes favors to a particular inquisitor. The Sisters of Battle ARE independant to the Inquisition, doing the vast majority of their work for the Ecclesiarchy. They are as much a part of the Inquisition as any other member of the Imperium of Man-- the Space Marine and Imperial Guard fight for the Inquisition as well, after all.

That's not the way I read it. I think your take is far too limited based on the fluff in the codex.

 

It's not that you're wrong, per se. The Sisters do have an agreement to work with the Inquisition.

 

But the nature of that agreement is not one as loose as you describe it. It's more than a simple "agreement". It's a binding contract. The sisters are the Chamber Militant of the Ordo Hereticus. They don't have the same leeway as Space Marines, not even close. If the Ordo Hereticus wants to use the Sisters, they simply order them to do so. The Sisters don't have any kind of option, political or otherwise, to refuse.

 

This is do different than the Grey Knights and the Ordo Malleus.

 

I am not sayng that the Sisters (and the GKs) have no freedom to negotiate when an order comes in. Any Inquisitor with any amount of experience and wisdom should -- and will -- defer to the leadership of their Chamber Militant for how best to carry out the assigned mission. Nevertheless, while GKs and the Sisters do carry out missions independent of the Inquisition, they themselves are not independent of the Inquisition. When the Inquisition says "Jump!", the Chambers Militant must reply, "OK, we will. Just let us decide how to make that jump."

[Melissia]

When the Inquisition says "Jump!", the Chambers Militant must reply, "OK, we will. Just let us decide how to make that jump."

You place too much emphasis on the agreement, when the agreement does nothing but solidify what was already there in the first place. The Sisters of Battle would have had to obey the Inquisition regardless of any agreements made, simply because of the power and authority of the Inquisition. Just like the Imperial Guard or lesser Space MArine chapters (especially ones which have disgraced themselves or have debts to pay). The Inquistion is a very powerful faction, and though the first and second founding chapters can blatantly defy it, the majority of the Imperium is under their thumb-- even these powerful chapters would rather work alongside the Inquisition, for the most part, than risk earning its ire.

 

However, just like the Imperial Guard and Space Marines, the Sisters of Battle do the vast majority of their work without reporting to the Inquisition, without having their orders, and indeed without even thinking of them. And in fact, Inquisitors may very well submit themselves to Living Saints, and obey their orders instead (in fact, so do Space Marines and Imperial Guard, as shown by Saint Sabbat).

[Race Bannon]

I'm getting my feet wet here, but I am not finding where the Orders have the same operational forgiveness that the Space Marines have. As I read it, they are continuously working on behalf of the Ecclisarchy ... and that's it. To suggest this is the sam eeffect as the Space Marines seems false to me. True, their daily activities are not watched, nor reported, but I do not see where they develop and follow their own agendas for their own means (while calling it service to the Emperor). To me, the Convocation at Nephilim keeps the Sisters from having the "freedom" enjoyed by the Astartes.

 

Is this incorrect?

[Eltnot]

I'm getting my feet wet here, but I am not finding where the Orders have the same operational forgiveness that the Space Marines have. As I read it, they are continuously working on behalf of the Ecclisarchy ... and that's it. To suggest this is the sam eeffect as the Space Marines seems false to me. True, their daily activities are not watched, nor reported, but I do not see where they develop and follow their own agendas for their own means (while calling it service to the Emperor). To me, the Convocation at Nephilim keeps the Sisters from having the "freedom" enjoyed by the Astartes.

 

Is this incorrect?

 

The Ecclesiarchy is not the Ordo Hereticus. So when you say that the sisters are working full time for the Ecclesiarchy, you are correct.

 

The easiest way to think of it is this. If the Ecclesiarchy was a world, then the Adeptus Sororitas are their PDF. They defend the world (in this case faith) from harm. If the Inquisition wants to requisition their troops, it is the same as if an Inquisitor asked Planetary PDF for assistance.

 

The Ordo Hereticus just happens to use the Adeptus Sororitas more because:

A. They are often the best suited unit for the task that is required because of their training.

B. The Ordo hereticus is in charge of ensuring that the Adeptus Sororitas does not build up too much power in a given area and start another war of faith. For this reason, they are already in contact with a suitable fighting force when one is needed (Would you go down to the newsagent to buy a new pen when you've got a perfectly good one on your desk in front of you?).

 

This is why they have an "Agreement" because the Adeptus Sororitas is what they want and most of the paperwork is already filled out.

 

Hope that makes more sense.

[Inquisitor Fox]

A few elaborations:

 

Both the Adepta Sororitas and the Ordo Hereticus were formed at the same time, after the Age of Apostasy and Vandires Reign of Blood. Both were founded in order to help police the Ecclesiarchy, with the Sisters serving a dual purpose both to be the Ecclesiarchy's armed forces (women at arms were allowed by the wording of the Decree Passive) and to guard against further corruption, and the Ordo Hereticus being a group of Inquisitors who focus a lot of their activities on the Ecclesiarchy.

 

Since they're both already working together, they have a secret agreement in the Convocation of Nephelim that the Sisters are the Chamber Militant for the Ordo Hereticus.

 

I would view it more similarly to cooperation between the Police Department, the FBI, and the CIA. A lot of the time they do the same job, so they work together.