Chaos Lord Shamrockius Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Plus, if they were susceptible to Chaos, what's the point of having them as a specialised Daemon-hunting force? If they are corruptible, there is no point to Grey Knights existing in the 40k universe. Ooooooh, yeah of course... just like Inquisitors right...? And just like the Space Marines were to bring the galaxy to order under humanity in M31... Look, I'm not saying it's a big stretch but i'm just saying that I don't see how it is sooooo black and white that it's not possible. I agree that it may alienate some GK players, but to be honest, having always played Chaos, I love and hate GK at the same time, and should I ever run out of CSMs to paint then I'll consider collecting them. Purely from the Black-White contrast. I can't see that the most hardened GK players would quit them, especially as there would probably be some rule whereby when he turns up against any loyalist board, other GKs deep strike at any turn they wish within 6" of any loyalist or traitor banner and have some extra butt kicking rule. With that in mind, I can see many more people buying/collecting GKs either as an ally or maybe eventually as a whole army to track this character. Mainly purely as he would be a great addition to every Chaos collector and therefore would spark a frenzy on both sides. Nothing is good for a rivalry like adding a new twist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Ooooooh, yeah of course... just like Inquisitors right...? Not really, since they watch each other for corruption. As do the seperate Space Marine Chapters. Falling en-masse isn't going to happen with either the Inquisition or the Adeptus Astartes. Changing Grey Knights that much would just remove everything they ever meant. It's like Abaddon's fluff changing so that he was never the head of the Black Legion, he was never the First Captain of the Luna Wolves, and the Black Crusades were lead by Huron Blackheart, and that Abaddon was just a Dreadnought in the Death Guard. Total change. At this point I would cite some other examples that are fundamental the Grey Knights, but GW has nicked most of them to add to the new SM Codex (*Sigh*). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire Wolf Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Seeing as how this topic isn't really about Grey Knights... I quite like the idea of Chaos Sisters, and when I have my loyalist chapter established, I might use Sisters for the Chaos force I've started planning for. As to the fluffiness, anyone can suffer a crisis of faith, even the most devout. The Sisters, like the Astartes, have alot of practices that put them on a slippery road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlight Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Deamonifuge... read it - sisters falling to a keeper of secrets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Important Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Chaos sisters is fully possible. Just as female CHAOS marines in my opinion. I believe that female space marines serving the imperium is impossible because the gene seed and implants won't work in the body as it will on the male body. But I believe some chaos god could change a females body enough for the implants and gene seed to work. But I see it hardly happening at all as the female must do a hell of a thing and not being a marine at the time wich is more then hard. I think I remember that I read somewhere to become a chosen marine to the gods you must have the potential to wipe out half an planet. Not heavily defended but still be able to and pretty much weaaboo kick ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drac0 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Damm, I just had the scariest vision ever after reading your post, a Female zerker on that time of the month. Scary! I know I wouldn't want to be on the the other side. 0_o EDIT Come to think of it, they would make decent noise marines as well. hehehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Bogdan Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 As a Word Bearers player I will want a say in this. Just as Sisters can faithfully serve the Imperial Church with the right motivation from a Chaos Agent they can be made to see the Light of Chaos Undivided and for once serve true Gods, not a comatose very powerful psyker. To be honest the thought of Chaos devoted Adepta Sororitas scares me as they take fanatism to the extreme! But what Word Bearer Chaplain would not love to see the Sisters serving his Legion with propper religious guidance! All praises! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Important Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Word Bearers are superb to send out the right message to everyone in the Imperium! http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q195/Sangaunus/chaoswitnesses.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyson_Vore Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 A being does not need be 'corrupted' or 'turned', their beliefs can be used against them. A claim of a cult here and the need for its destruction, the clues that lead a governor of a planet as the leader of said cult, the possible infection of the populous. The need to terminate the taint of evil could lead them to commit genocides. Not this would only happen IF and only if they had the proper guiding force, like a corrupted Inquisitor. Just my thoughts of it, and apologies if the above scenario is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastratedCow Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 If it's got a warp presence, it can be corrupted. Some beings are just harder to corrupt than others. I mean hell, if Avatars and Primarchs are going down to Chaos, then what's stoppin a mere Sister or Grey Knight from doing the same? Faith? As evidenced by what happened to the Word Bearers, Horus, and other marines that loved and were utterly devoted to the Emperor, faith only goes so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surreal Cruelty Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 A being does not need be 'corrupted' or 'turned', their beliefs can be used against them. A claim of a cult here and the need for its destruction, the clues that lead a governor of a planet as the leader of said cult, the possible infection of the populous. The need to terminate the taint of evil could lead them to commit genocides. Not this would only happen IF and only if they had the proper guiding force, like a corrupted Inquisitor. Just my thoughts of it, and apologies if the above scenario is bad. For all of the brances of the Inquisition, genocide is a standard procedure when dealing with chaos. However, the sentiment is correct. Conviction and Zeal often cause individuals and their followers to charge head first down the road to hell, either convinced of the righteousness of their actions, or that the end justifies the means. Sisters turning to chaos should be expected. After all, they don't go anywhere without Confessors, priests, and other functionaries and minders from the Ecclesiarchy reigning them in. For that matter, consider what 'heresy' the Sisters Repentia, the Arco-flagellents, and the... (Sisters crucified to the dreadnaughts, can't remember the name right now...). There are a number of "heresies" in the imperium, but to the inquisition, they all lead to chaos sooner or later. And as a somewhat off topic note: As for Grey Knights, there is a lot of background as to "why' they are uncorruptable (not just GW says so). The same 'almost' applies to the Excorcist chapter as well. Specifically Gene-seed tailoring, rigorous (and often lethal) exposure to daemons and the warp, very strict indoctination/conditioning, and...constant monitoring, by their battle brothers, by their superiors, and by the inquisition just to list a few reasons why they can't be corrupted. If they fail even slightly in the trials and training to become a grey knight, they don't survive. The Exorcists chapter doesn't endure nearly as much as the Grey Knights during their training and indoctination, and they are much harder to corrupt than most ordinary marines. As for Avatars turning to chaos...they ARE beings of chaos...that is the Tragedy of the Eldar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinoDoc Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 the Arco-flagellents, and the... (Sisters crucified to the dreadnaughts, can't remember the name right now...). There are a number of "heresies" in the imperium, but to the inquisition, they all lead to chaos sooner or later.Those aren't Adeptus Soritas. Read your codex again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Don't all potential Grey Knights go through a horrid ordeal of 666 tests, that are far worse than any possible trick Chaos may pull? Inquisitors and other Space Marines don't have anything of the sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Not to mention they are [rumored] made of the emperor's geneseed, hence their incalculable ability (compared to all else) tostand against chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mchagen Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 It's a good idea. I'd be interested in the conversion potential though since sisters are all-metal, late-2nd edition style models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 As for Avatars turning to chaos...they ARE beings of chaos...that is the Tragedy of the Eldar. Actually they are the shards of the Eldar God Khaine, who was destroyed by Slaanesh. I mean hell, if Avatars and Primarchs are going down to Chaos, then what's stoppin a mere Sister or Grey Knight from doing the same? Faith? Well let's see then: Slaanesh: "I can give you everything you desire. What do you desire?" Grey Knights: "We desire three things: to see you and all your daemonkin, all other daemons, daemonic gods and all things Chaos expunged from existence; and to never fall to Chaos ourselves. And once we die, to be returned to Titan to be buried in the catacombs." *pause* Slaanesh: "Okaaay. Any other desires?" Grey Knights: "We desire three things: to see you . . ." Khorne: "I can make you the greatest warriors in the universe. You shall be unstoppable, no enemy shall defeat you! Even if you are fighting the other Chaos Gods." Grey Knights: "We managed to defeat your favourite Primarch Angron and your pet Bloodthirster Ann'grath without any help from you. What could you possible offer us?" Nurgle: "I can offer you the chance of eternal life." Grey Knights: "We want to be buried in the catacombs of Titan when we die. That requires us to be dead, not living for ever." Tzeentch: "I can make you the greatest psykers in the universe." Grey Knights: "If you're so powerful, how come Brother-Captain Stern keeps beating up your pet canary? We're winning this contest of psychic power here." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 It's a little thought I've had creep up on me from time to time, especially after seeing certain models of these ladies. So I was wondering, would it be plausible fluff-wise, to have them turn to Chaos somehow?Miriael Sabathiel from the short-story: The Invitation. She looks like this: link link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Bogdan Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Nihm, where can I find the Short Story you mentioned? Thanks in advance, and ALL PRAISES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 In Tales From the Dark Millennium, or by following the white rabbit. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Speaking of which I just remembered that Miriael actually is the only Sister of Battle to have fallen to Chaos. The sisters who fell in Demonifuge was either A: Possessed and not turned, or B: Not part of an actual fighting Order, and even then they were more like possessed and not actually turned either. :tu: TDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 "Many of our number succumbed to its lies and whispers..." and "and claimed those of you not strong enough to resist him." Sounds like falling to chaos to me ^_^. Though you're right in that they were sisters of study, in the end they still had power armor and bolters they knew well how to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 "Many of our number succumbed to its lies and whispers..." and "and claimed those of you not strong enough to resist him." Sounds like falling to chaos to me :(. Though you're right in that they were sisters of study, in the end they still had power armor and bolters they knew well how to use. "Many of our number succumbed to its lies and whispers..." could also mean that their armor of faith was broken down so that they became vulnerable, and "and claimed those of you not strong enough to resist him." could mean that after breaking down said defensed "he" managed to infuse some of his essence in them, effectively possessing them. :D TDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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