Word Bearers souls

[Uprising]

From my understanding when a CSM dies it souls go to that god it worships and become a daemon of that god. For undivided, there souls become furies. So my qustion is which daemon do word bearers soul become. They view each god equal so it like this

 

Khorne 20 percent

TZ 20 percent

Nurgle 20 percent

Slaanesh 20 percent

Undivided 20 percent

 

So how far will a chaos god go in getting a marine soul?

[Fausto2071]

I'm not so sure that they become an actual daemon of their god, cos the daemons are supposed to be little sparks of power from the god themselves~where did you hear that?

[CastratedCow]

For undecided, their souls become furies.

 

That's what the book says. No idea what happens to the undivided folks.

[chillin]

For undecided, their souls become furies.

 

That's what the book says. No idea what happens to the undivided folks.

 

I guess the undivided folks turn into the generic lesser daemons in the csm dex :)

 

To the OP: This fluff about csm turning into daemons when they die is rather new and in some of the novels. In the older fluff and other fluff sources daemons were never humans (or csm's), they were alway warp creatures (except DP's they are different). Also got to remember the novels are not considered "official" fluff. the daemon dex "contradicts" some older fluff. For example, in csm codex 3.5, furies were not undecided chaos worshipers but warp beast and always had been, they had never been human at all.

[Corpse.]

Plaguebearers become as such from the noted Nurgle's Rot power. I assume other diseases from him do so, so if they get plagued, they become plaguebearers in the end. (Dropping like pussfilled fruit from transparent eggsacks from the plague treebranches when their soul ripens in nurgle's forests)

 

For dying in rage, perhaps closer to becoming a khornate daemon.

 

Dying in pleasure, fulfillment and desire, perhaps a daemonette.

 

Dying in odd ways maybe become tzeentch daemons.

 

And for the undecided, when at the gates of hel-chaos for a while they'll just become furies/undivided daemons.

 

 

Good idea for undivided daemons, marines without armor and a close combat weapon... Sounds like a use for catachan models!

[TheDarkApostle]

Except that we have to remember that while the Big Four is, well, the biggest Four, there's still countless of lesser Gods, Goddesses, Princes and other powerful beings in the Warp that could be called "Gods".

 

TDA

[Corpse.]

Demigods is the word your looking for Apostle. =)

[TheDarkApostle]

Well, demigods per definition is "half"-Gods meaning they're not actually Gods.

 

While those I was speaking of would be more like "pseudo"-Gods I guess. :mellow:

 

But it's just nitpicking, we all know what we were meaning, don't we? :D

 

TDA

[Night Stalker]

They are just lesser gods, not demigods.

[Drac0]

From my understanding when a CSM dies it souls go to that god it worships and become a daemon of that god. For undivided, there souls become furies. So my qustion is which daemon do word bearers soul become.

 

Well if they do turn deamons when they die I can see many CSM killing themselves to ascend to become deamons.

And if this really happens, then what's the point in possessions and the greed to become a daemon prince? I mean, why fighting to favor their gods to become a demon when CSM can simply do this:

-"Hey, Khorne, dude, I worship you and all bro, so... *draws bolt pistol* yeah...Blood for the blood god and all that stuff"

*shoots himself in the head*

*strange sounds and funky lights*

BAM! Insta daemon!

[Night Stalker]

Well, it's safer to become Daemon Prince than simply die and risk becoming 'khorne warp ant daemon'(1" lenght).

[TheDarkApostle]

Indeed.

 

You have to make sure that you'll have alot of power in the Warp before becoming a full denizen of it. Otherwise you'll be eaten by more powerful forces. <_<

 

TDA

[Uprising]

Well if they do turn deamons when they die I can see many CSM killing themselves to ascend to become deamons.

And if this really happens, then what's the point in possessions and the greed to become a daemon prince? I mean, why fighting to favor their gods to become a demon when CSM can simply do this:

 

Because CSM probably don`t know about this happening.

[Fausto2071]

Well if they do turn deamons when they die I can see many CSM killing themselves to ascend to become deamons.

And if this really happens, then what's the point in possessions and the greed to become a daemon prince? I mean, why fighting to favor their gods to become a demon when CSM can simply do this:

 

Because CSM probably don`t know about this happening.

 

thats a good point

[LuNCHBiZZLe]

I don't know from the fluff I heard chaos marines just go to th ewarp when they die they don't become deamons but if they do I figure it would have to be whatever god they worshiped most.That being said WB that worship nurgle above the other gods would become nurglins/plaguebeares/beasts of nurgle etc.

[Drac0]

Well if they do turn deamons when they die I can see many CSM killing themselves to ascend to become deamons.

And if this really happens, then what's the point in possessions and the greed to become a daemon prince? I mean, why fighting to favor their gods to become a demon when CSM can simply do this:

 

Because CSM probably don`t know about this happening.

 

thats a good point

 

indeed it is.

but what about 1k sons, they're bookworm <_< obsessed with knowledge, surely they read/heard/dreamed/had visions/whatever about it.

[Fausto2071]

hmm. well, most 1k sons wouldnt turn into daemons lest they were sorcerors, and they probably would know they could turn into daemons but seek more and more power in life, like was said earlier, why take a risk if the bigger fish in the warp decides to eat you?

[Drac0]

hmm. well, most 1k sons wouldnt turn into daemons lest they were sorcerors, and they probably would know they could turn into daemons but seek more and more power in life, like was said earlier, why take a risk if the bigger fish in the warp decides to eat you?

 

Because 99% of the times you gonna be eaten anyway. That's how the chaos gods work, they play with their toys for fun, when they get tired or the toys brake, they just turned them to nurglins (or the equivalent) Mwahahaha

 

BTW in my previous post I was just refuting the point that CSM were unaware of their fate after death, not why 1k sons don't kill themselves when aware of the said fate. ^_^

[Zerib]

From my understanding of the fluff normal mortals do not become demons. When they die their souls go to feed the warp entity they follow be it a god, like one of the chaos ones or something of the sorts. At some point these entities are able to manifest their powers and can spawn/ create followers in the form that we might call demons. However these demons are an embodiment of the entity so it is not like one could have an endless amount. Also when they are in the real universe, I say real as in the realm of warhammer, they are much weaker than in the warp and can be banished back to their realm where they are reborn. However they can be in rare instances totally destroyed and with it part of that entity's power lost.

 

When one looks at the soul of some worshiper like a Word Bearer or one who's soul is dedicated to chaos in general there are two schools of thought that I see. The first is that of a true Word Bearer, in that all the separate gods are in reality just representations of Chaos. So when they die their soul fuels Chaos which is able to strengthen all the gods because they are in reality one. The second possibility is that there are four main gods, which we all know of, that vie for power. In addition there is a 5th power which is Chaos. When one with an undivided soul dies this persons soul feeds the 5th power. However unlike the other Gods this power is not manifested by a particular individual like Khorne or Tzeentch.

 

OK at this point I have realized I have put more time and thought into a belief that is based entirely in a fantasy universe than is most likely healthy...I'm going to bed.