Lord Insanity Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Chapter Master Aurelian Chapter Master Aurelian 6 5 4 4 4 5 4 10 2+ Chapter Master Aurelian..........235 points Infantry 1 Space Marine Chapter Master Folly of Augustus (Artificier Armour) Iron Halo Digital Weapons Honour (Master-crafted Power Weapon) Zeal of the Forgotten Primarch (Master-crafted Plasma Pistol) Frag and Krak Grenades And They Shall Know No Fear Combat Tactics Chapter Tactics Independent Character Martial Pride Orbital Bombardment Rhino Chapter TacticsAny army led by this Special Character gains the Martial Pride special rule.Martial PrideAny model with a WS gains +1 WS when fighting a model with a WS of 4 or more in close combat. However, if the enemy's WS is 3 or less, then WS is decreased by 1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168347-heroes-of-the-aquila-warriors/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Wow, heavy cost. Master-crafting is neat, but not THAT neat anymore. Martial Pride is an interesting rule, but shouldn't cost too much (assuming the army loses Combat Tactics for it as is status quo). In fact, analyzing it ... why have it? Space Marines will hit on a 4+ until the target WS reaches 9 or 10!!! So increasing the average WS to 5 against 5+ WS is still hitting on 4+. Unless the point of Martial Pride is taking away the advantage of having WS 4. I can see the rule in effect, but should it cost a lot for a rule that disadvantages the army more than not? So I'm trying to guess why he should cost SO much more than Calgar? I like the dedicated Rhino a lot though, good idea there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168347-heroes-of-the-aquila-warriors/#findComment-1985614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Insanity Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 Wow, heavy cost. Master-crafting is neat, but not THAT neat anymore. Martial Pride is an interesting rule, but shouldn't cost too much (assuming the army loses Combat Tactics for it as is status quo). In fact, analyzing it ... why have it? Space Marines will hit on a 4+ until the target WS reaches 9 or 10!!! So increasing the average WS to 5 against 5+ WS is still hitting on 4+. Unless the point of Martial Pride is taking away the advantage of having WS 4. I can see the rule in effect, but should it cost a lot for a rule that disadvantages the army more than not? So I'm trying to guess why he should cost SO much more than Calgar? I like the dedicated Rhino a lot though, good idea there. I've edited the points cost; it should be somewhat more reasonable now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168347-heroes-of-the-aquila-warriors/#findComment-1985636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Stalker Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 you are missing that it's actually boost. Unit with the rule hit most common opponents (those with WS4) on 3+ (as models with the rule will have WS5). Also it help against WS5 (they hit them on 4+ instead of 3+ hits). It's only downgrade when fighting meaningless opponents with WS3. So Race Bannon failed to spot how this rule work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168347-heroes-of-the-aquila-warriors/#findComment-1985659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Quite honestly, this should cost 230. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168347-heroes-of-the-aquila-warriors/#findComment-1985670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Insanity Posted May 13, 2009 Author Share Posted May 13, 2009 Quite honestly, this should cost 230. Duly noted. I'll edit it soon and add his profile. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168347-heroes-of-the-aquila-warriors/#findComment-1986362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Welp, you called me out. I should have been more encompasing in my post. It was a bad reply and that's my fault. But Night Stalker is still correct in that I failed to see every angle of the rule. :( At least the points was fixed. So, does the Chapter replace Combat Tactics for Martial Pride? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168347-heroes-of-the-aquila-warriors/#findComment-1988235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Insanity Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share Posted May 15, 2009 Welp, you called me out. I should have been more encompasing in my post. It was a bad reply and that's my fault. But Night Stalker is still correct in that I failed to see every angle of the rule. :huh: At least the points was fixed. So, does the Chapter replace Combat Tactics for Martial Pride? Yes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168347-heroes-of-the-aquila-warriors/#findComment-1988893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Insanity Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 Brother-Captain Marius Brother-Captain Marius 5 5 4 4 4 5 4 10 2+ Brother-Captain Marius..........285 points Infantry 1 Space Captain Courage of Aramus (Artificier Armour) Iron Halo Digital Weapons Blade of the Lost Virtue (Master-crafted Relic Blade) Frag and Krak Grenades And They Shall Know No Fear Combat Tactics Chapter Tactics Independent Character Martial Pride Masterful Strategist Shatter their Sky! Rhino Chapter TacticsAny army led by this Special Character gains the Martial Pride special rule.Martial PrideAny model with a WS gains +1 WS when fighting a model with a WS of 4 or more in close combat. However, if the enemy's WS is 3 or less, then WS is decreased by 1.Masterful StrategistAny army led by Brother-Captain Marius may re-roll any failed attempts to Seize the Initiative.Shatter their Sky!Brother-Captain Marius is captain of the Aquila Dominatus, and is thus capable of bringing terrible firepower to bear from the orbiting fleet.An army that includes Brother-Captain Marius may use two Orbital Bombardments per game. The second bombardnment is optional, and counts as a Heavy Support choice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168347-heroes-of-the-aquila-warriors/#findComment-1993211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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