Legatus Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 If both of those rules were at least on the same page it might have been an indication that they wanted to leave it in place. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168811-can-land-speeders-capture-objectives/page/2/#findComment-1993855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Whoops. Thats what I get for working from memory. :P Please disregard me previous post. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168811-can-land-speeders-capture-objectives/page/2/#findComment-1993856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trekari Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Assuming that you (Legatus) are still speaking about Ravenwing not being able to Turbo-Boost during a Scout move and the RAS Landspeeders being scoring, they ARE on the same page of the Codex. Page 27. There can be no dispute whether Ravenwing bikers can Turbo-Boost during their Scout move, and there cannot be a dispute about Ravenwing Attack Squadron Landspeeders being scoring units. It is spelled out as clear as can possibly be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168811-can-land-speeders-capture-objectives/page/2/#findComment-1993909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 No, he corrected me in claiming that the rules for DA combat squads being scoring and the RAS speeder being scoring were on the same page. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168811-can-land-speeders-capture-objectives/page/2/#findComment-1993936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiveFleetEzekial Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Wouldn't matter either way. They errated one instance of the other scoring units, and left another. Till they either catch it, or admit to leaving it on purpose, it's still legal. Doesn't matter what edition it was made durring. There are plenty of other 'older' codexes out there that had rules that originated in earlier editions, and *they* still get to use them legaly, even though the main 'definition' of them in the core rules has changed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168811-can-land-speeders-capture-objectives/page/2/#findComment-1993959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 See, that was the kinda point I was trying to make. HiveFleetEzekial put it more eloquently that I. GW has addressed several points in the DA FAQ, one of which is concerning the scoring status of several units. We know for a fact that GW looked at the RAS entry during the making of this FAQ, as the ability to Turboboost during Scout moves appears in the very same entry. The scoring status of land speeders in RAS was not changed. We can only assume this was done purposfully. Either way it IS the rules as they appear before us. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168811-can-land-speeders-capture-objectives/page/2/#findComment-1994081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 We know for a fact that GW looked at the RAS entry during the making of this FAQ, as the ability to Turboboost during Scout moves appears in the very same entry. The Dark Angels FaQ does not adress turbo boosting scout moves. Or maybe I missed it. It appears as far as the Codex Dark Angels is concerned, they still cannot turboboost during their scout move. Codex trumping rulebook and all. (It not appearing in the FaQ does not mean it has not been changed in the most recent Codex reprint, though. When Obliterators in the last Codex Chaos were errata'ed from T5 to T4(5) they removed it from the FaQ as soon as the reprints had been released.) Another example: Both Codex Daemonhunters and Codex Witchhunters state in the "Transport" introduction box that some units can get dedicated transports which only they can use. The WH FaQ contains an errata that removes this restriction, but the DH FaQ does not. Is it GW's intention that Witch Hunter transports can transport anyone, according to the new edition rules, while Daemon Hunter transports are not supposed to be able to do that? But maybe this is another case of the reprints already inlcuding this change. My Codex does not say that, and the FaQ currently available at GW.com does not either, so I can only assume that is the current situation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168811-can-land-speeders-capture-objectives/page/2/#findComment-1994205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gil galed Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 We know for a fact that GW looked at the RAS entry during the making of this FAQ, as the ability to Turboboost during Scout moves appears in the very same entry. The Dark Angels FaQ does not adress turbo boosting scout moves. Or maybe I missed it. It appears as far as the Codex Dark Angels is concerned, they still cannot turboboost during their scout move. Codex trumping rulebook and all. (It not appearing in the FaQ does not mean it has not been changed in the most recent Codex reprint, though. When Obliterators in the last Codex Chaos were errata'ed from T5 to T4(5) they removed it from the FaQ as soon as the reprints had been released.) Another example: Both Codex Daemonhunters and Codex Witchhunters state in the "Transport" introduction box that some units can get dedicated transports which only they can use. The WH FaQ contains an errata that removes this restriction, but the DH FaQ does not. Is it GW's intention that Witch Hunter transports can transport anyone, according to the new edition rules, while Daemon Hunter transports are not supposed to be able to do that? But maybe this is another case of the reprints already inlcuding this change. My Codex does not say that, and the FaQ currently available at GW.com does not either, so I can only assume that is the current situation. I'm pretty sure it is on purpose DH not being able to use other transports, otherwise you'd open up a host of options for GK which arn't necessarily nice (like 6 LR's or Rhinos for GK) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168811-can-land-speeders-capture-objectives/page/2/#findComment-1994206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 How often are yo going to see 6 Land Raiders filled with Grey Knights in one army? :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168811-can-land-speeders-capture-objectives/page/2/#findComment-1994260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Quite often, DH players need their land raiders as it's the best anti-tank they have. If they have the points they'll often take as many as they can, hence the tri-raider list that is so common. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168811-can-land-speeders-capture-objectives/page/2/#findComment-1994277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 We know for a fact that GW looked at the RAS entry during the making of this FAQ, as the ability to Turboboost during Scout moves appears in the very same entry. The Dark Angels FaQ does not adress turbo boosting scout moves. Or maybe I missed it. It appears as far as the Codex Dark Angels is concerned, they still cannot turboboost during their scout move. I am not disputing that in any way, shape or form. Ravenwing bikers cannot turboboost during Scoutmoves. *looking at the FAQ* "DARN IT ALL TO HECK!" I was soooo certain that there was an entry in the DA FAQ making it clear that Ravenwing bikes couldn't Turboboost during Scoutmoves. Thats it. No more posting without checking my facts! ;( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168811-can-land-speeders-capture-objectives/page/2/#findComment-1994314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Quite often, DH players need their land raiders as it's the best anti-tank they have. If they have the points they'll often take as many as they can, hence the tri-raider list that is so common. If Grey Knights were allowed to embark into an inquisitor's Land Raider, they would still need to include that inquisitor + retinue to be able to get it. If they just want it for anti tank they can already get more than 3 Land Raiders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168811-can-land-speeders-capture-objectives/page/2/#findComment-1994380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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