Coverfire Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Are Wolf Guard Bodyguards the only models who can take Assault Cannons? I know in the past there have been questionable arguments for and against Wolf Guard Battle-leaders being allowed to take them. However this time I wish to explore Wolf Guard Champions. I have been out of touch for a few years now and I made an army list for a campaign that is being run at the local club. I made my list, found all my guys, arranged the weapon schemes I required and painted them in unit colouring sat back and thought... "Wait.. can WGC have Assault Cannons?" So now prostrate myself onto the mercy of the forum to decide whether or not I can carry through with the action of using Assault Cannons on WGC or whether I have to drop them for stormbolters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168861-sorry-to-resurrect-an-old-issue-but/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzouken Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Wolf Guard Battle Leaders can as well. Check the new(er) SW FAQ on the GW site. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168861-sorry-to-resurrect-an-old-issue-but/#findComment-1992499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 The FAQ clarifies the entry of the Wolf Gaurd Battle Leader wich states he can "take anything from the wolf gaurd entry" wich some people have interpreted over the years as cheaper wargear.... wich has nothing to do with their unit entry wich DOES allow them to take assault cannon amongst other things. Note: All heavy weapons count as a two handed weapon, and the updated version of the codex allows you to take a second weapon with them while in TDA. EDIT: Never give them Stormbolters if you have the points for anything else, you cant true grit a stormbolter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168861-sorry-to-resurrect-an-old-issue-but/#findComment-1992504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coverfire Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 Thank you for the update RE Wolf Guard Battle-Leader, but I am still curious to know whether Wolf Guard Champions can take assault cannons or not. Never give them Stormbolters if you have the points for anything else, you cant true grit a stormbolter. True, but my version of the codex (as I understand there are two versions?) does not state that I can benefit from the true grit rule when using combi-weapons either so if I can't take Assault Cannons I will drop the terminator armour I suppose. A shame after all that time and effort but oh well... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168861-sorry-to-resurrect-an-old-issue-but/#findComment-1992517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 No, the entry for heavy weapons in the wolf gaurd entry is for bodygaurds.... as much as Id like to throw a heavy weapon into my squads some days it just doesnt work. That being said I find that having a TDA WG in a squad is a major boon, especially with a CCW of some sort and a stormshield with runic charm- mean I have a guy whos very likely to save against anything thats sent at the squad. Runs about 60pts, but usually is worth it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168861-sorry-to-resurrect-an-old-issue-but/#findComment-1992521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzouken Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Ofc, you could use the models as WGBL and attach them to squads using the IC rules. You could be picked out in CC, but if its for shooting... eh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168861-sorry-to-resurrect-an-old-issue-but/#findComment-1992601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn the Fell-Handed Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Who can take assault cannons? WHO CAN TAKE ASSAULT CANNONS!? The question that should be asked is, who can't take assault cannnons, because assault cannon spam is fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;) :P :P :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168861-sorry-to-resurrect-an-old-issue-but/#findComment-1995870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Assault Cannons... I love em. I like to take at least 6 min in my armies. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168861-sorry-to-resurrect-an-old-issue-but/#findComment-1995893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzouken Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I've lost a land raider to an assault cannon once. darn cannons are the devil. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168861-sorry-to-resurrect-an-old-issue-but/#findComment-1996171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 God, in 4th ed AC's were a Landraider's bain. I played my BT friend in an apoc battle, he brought 4 landraiders to the table. None of the lascannons or missile launchers did jack to the raiders. A vortex grenade took out one (with helbrecht, woo!) and one round of shooting from various assault cannons popped the others in quick succession....a normally mellow guy was quite irked at that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168861-sorry-to-resurrect-an-old-issue-but/#findComment-1996339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzouken Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 erm, the instance I was talking about was during my first game of 5th. Two land raider lists rolled up on each other, both SW too. His Crusader managed to shred through my Redeemer. So annoying. I still eeked out a victory over him by a single KP, by ramming his Rhino with one of my basic raiders. So much fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168861-sorry-to-resurrect-an-old-issue-but/#findComment-1996542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I'm just saying, 4th ed, they had the potential punch of 18 AV. Best they can manage in 5th is 15, and that's w/ rolling a 6, then a 5 or a 6. So yeah, it's much more rare for an AC to take out tanks this edition, sadly enough :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168861-sorry-to-resurrect-an-old-issue-but/#findComment-1996729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzouken Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Well, yes, but let's face it, the fluff justified the change. How often does a minigun really punch a tank to pieces? Even a minigun firing .775 caliber rockets... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168861-sorry-to-resurrect-an-old-issue-but/#findComment-1997056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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