Jangalak Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Hi, so I have looked through the BRB and can see says that a walker is not effected in CC by a shaken result on the damage chart. But what if it gets a shaken result, cant fire in the shooting phase, but then assaults - is that possible? I can see logically why both options would be viable but cant see it spelt out for me in the BRB, other than that it is not mentioned and therefore I can do it? Help greatly apprecdiated by a stranded dreadnought! Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168994-dreadnoughts-can/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz1858 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Crew shaken only means cant shoot doesnt it? So thats all it cant do. It can still charge, run, pop smoke launchers etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168994-dreadnoughts-can/#findComment-1994343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maligoare Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Crew shaken in this case means you can't shoot, but can still move/assault. Stunned on the other hand means it can't move either, so no assaults if the Dreadnought is Stunned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168994-dreadnoughts-can/#findComment-1994362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jangalak Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 thanks for that - I gave my buddy the benefit of doubt and left my Dread to get wasted by a volley of melta fire, instead of charging - to be fair though it all worked out in the end (he just couldnt hurt it) as it tied up his only tank trying to kill the dread for the rest of the game - he just couldnt roll a penetrating hit! Must have been karma... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168994-dreadnoughts-can/#findComment-1994529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Crew shaken only means cant shoot doesnt it? So thats all it cant do. It can still charge, run, pop smoke launchers etc I would say that since it cannot shoot, it cannot run either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168994-dreadnoughts-can/#findComment-1994866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Gothard Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I would say that since it cannot shoot, it cannot run either. Why? That does not follow at all. There is a precedent with Eldar star engines; they use them during the shooting phase, and may do so even if they cannot shoot. Running happens instead of shooting, but that does not mean it is shooting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168994-dreadnoughts-can/#findComment-1994920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serif Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Makes sense if he's shaken he couldn't shoot...his targeters are messed, not his legs. try using a scope or shooting any kind of gun while getting punched in the ribs... oth, you can still run and or punch back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168994-dreadnoughts-can/#findComment-1994936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Exampe: Black Templar with a Missile Launcher as part of a squad moves in the movement phase.... why wouldnt he be able to run in the the shooting phase with the rest of his squad? He cant shoot, because he moved.... so theres nothing to be in leiu of. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168994-dreadnoughts-can/#findComment-1995203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReclusiarch Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 But remember that shaken results the walkers close combat abilities. Grenades hit according to WS (not just on 6's) and the walker fights with one less attack Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168994-dreadnoughts-can/#findComment-1995275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 But remember that shaken results the walkers close combat abilities. Grenades hit according to WS (not just on 6's) and the walker fights with one less attack No it doesn't. Only Stunned and Immobilized do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168994-dreadnoughts-can/#findComment-1995284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReclusiarch Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 But remember that shaken results the walkers close combat abilities. Grenades hit according to WS (not just on 6's) and the walker fights with one less attack No it doesn't. Only Stunned and Immobilized do. Yeah, I was only testing you guys. *cough* Move along. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168994-dreadnoughts-can/#findComment-1995327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 But remember that shaken results the walkers close combat abilities. Grenades hit according to WS (not just on 6's) and the walker fights with one less attack No it doesn't. Only Stunned and Immobilized do. Yeah, I was only testing you guys. *cough* Move along. ;) Sure sure :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/168994-dreadnoughts-can/#findComment-1995353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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