Grey Mage Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 So Im thinking of converting a unit over to the following: WGBL- TDA, RC, FB, AC, Pelt- 128pts. WGBG- TDA, RC, CF, AC WGBG- TDA, RC, LC, AC WGBG- TDA, RC, PF, SS WGBG- TDA, RC, PW, C-M WP- PP, HP+B Wolf In a drop pod. How would you run a tough unit? Following restrictions: Has to fit into a 1500pt list, has to fit in a drop pod, has to be legal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169137-looking-for-protection/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapturowski Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Looks interesting. I would suggest swapping out some weapons for either a second Storm Shield or a Combi Melta for some redundancy. Which one would depend on the kind of opponents you're likely to face I guess. Otherwise it looks like a unit that will be able to take quite a beating and in turn dish out some of it's own. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169137-looking-for-protection/#findComment-1996599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Actually, by NOT having redundancy, it increases the resiliance of the unit, as he can allocate each and every wound in the unit, meaning that if he needed to, he can place multiple AP 2 shots on his SS wielding termie (assuming there are enough "other" wounds to cover the rest of the unit). That being said, I agree a 2nd stormshield will go far in a unit like this. You can even make a few of the WG PA, so that you could fit in that 4th AC (i think there's a "drop pod of doom" in the 750 pt modular lists in the link in my sig for an example of this). Either way, I'm hesitant to convert one of these up, as I'm sure they will nerf the hell out of it come our new dex, and I am loathe to waste models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169137-looking-for-protection/#findComment-1996731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapturowski Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I see your point. Perhaps I'm using the word "redundancy" wrong, with english not being my native tongue and all :lol: . Anyway, I just think that one Combi Melta in a unit tends to be quite ineffective, I seem to always need two or three to ensure a kill against a tank. The Assault Cannons goes some way to compensate for this but I have found that they're not that reliable when it comes to taking down tanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169137-looking-for-protection/#findComment-1996788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I have used 1 DP in my list since 5th and it has served me quite well. WGBL/WL in TDA, TH & SS w/WTN WG in TDA, CF/SS w/ RC ( I have no problem dropping on top of a dread with these guys, but you can drop both the weapons down to a PF to save 10 points if needed. 8 GH 2 PW 1PP 1 MG 6 Bolters. The trick like mentioned is wound allocation, being able to put anything up to AP3 on the HQ and WG is a huge benefit in survivability. I usally put plasma/no save wounds on my GHs until I am down to the PWs & Melta guy if I need him), then I start allocating to my HQ until he is down to 1 wound, then to my WG, then to the PW GHs and finally the last wound on my lord. I think in maybe 20 games I have only lost the entire pack once or twice. On the other had the number of times they have survived the shooting phase of over half my enemies list is worthy of boasts in the halls of Russ. Huge distraction to allow the rest of my army to get into position and not no crazy point intensive, though 400 points in a 1500 list is a commitment. WG Vrox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169137-looking-for-protection/#findComment-1996847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I can't personally see anything wrong with that list. I personally run a list very similar to it myself. Less shooting on my side and more Storm Shields, but that's just because I go up against a LOT of AP2 weaponry on occasion. Your WGBL and your WP will ensure that in most instances, you'll be tossing the CC dice first. Speaking of Wolf Priest, Healing Potions and Balms have saved my rear on many occasion. 25pts seems like a lot until you're saving a 60-160pt model... Which looking up again, I already see you have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169137-looking-for-protection/#findComment-1996933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 i thought you would need 7 wolf guard, not 5, to get the third assault cannon. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169137-looking-for-protection/#findComment-1997006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roguemarine Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 i thought you would need 7 wolf guard, not 5, to get the third assault cannon. WLK the WGBL doesn't follow those rules so his doesn't count. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169137-looking-for-protection/#findComment-1997078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 i thought you would need 7 wolf guard, not 5, to get the third assault cannon. WLK the WGBL doesn't follow those rules so his doesn't count. oops, i missed the "BL" of "WGBL". my bad. that does look like a potent combo then. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169137-looking-for-protection/#findComment-1997207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 GM ifyou do go with the WG TDA build I suggest you either give your WGBL a CML or one of the WG a HF. I also agree one more SS will serve you well, changing the C-M to a SS is a good choice. If you gonig all out, might as well give your WP melta bombs. my god man, your talking about a 580ish point pack. that over a third of your total points. talk about all your eggs in one basket. Granted they are eggs made of cermite armor but yeah....... WG Vrox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169137-looking-for-protection/#findComment-1997321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 Its for a last man standing competition... survival is all that matters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169137-looking-for-protection/#findComment-1997452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Nostromo Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 I have had some success with a podding unit of mixed armour WG. In short, this would differ from your unit by dropping two TDA models (possibly the IC as you could give him runic armour) and putting 3 or 4 PA models in instead (armed with SS and RC + whatever you fancy). This gives you extra wounds and cheaper models with storm shields. I have found this unit survives longer simply by having more wounds, and while slightly more expensive, allows you to keep the really valuable assets in the unit alive longer. Just a thought :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169137-looking-for-protection/#findComment-1997550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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