The_son_of_Dorn Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Hey there just a quicky - has any one ever tried to incorporate a grandmaster grey knight who has been injured badly and then has then decided not to be buried on titan- would they have a special venerable dreadnought for this ? and if so what kind of pshycic might could he relay through a dreadnoughts nemesis weapon? Kind of like a chapter master - who then relitavley speaking gains such a reputation as other dreadnought heros such as Bjorn the fell handed any thoughts ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169156-grey-knight-dreadnoughts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Mel Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 From the lexicanum: Like other Space Marine Chapters, mortally wounded Grey Knights are sometimes placed within the massive battle armor known as a Dreadnought. Unlike other Chapters, however, Grey Knights do not look upon this extension of their life as an honour - all Grey Knights desire to be brought to the crypts underneath the Temple of the Emperor on Titan and laid to rest with their brothers over continuing life inside a machine. As such, Grey Knight Dreadnoughts are extremely rare. so i would imagine it to be a bit un-fluffy, but that shouldn't stop you from doing it anyway! Mel Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169156-grey-knight-dreadnoughts/#findComment-1996790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 From the lexicanum:Like other Space Marine Chapters, mortally wounded Grey Knights are sometimes placed within the massive battle armor known as a Dreadnought. Unlike other Chapters, however, Grey Knights do not look upon this extension of their life as an honour - all Grey Knights desire to be brought to the crypts underneath the Temple of the Emperor on Titan and laid to rest with their brothers over continuing life inside a machine. As such, Grey Knight Dreadnoughts are extremely rare. so i would imagine it to be a bit un-fluffy, but that shouldn't stop you from doing it anyway! Mel true but i suppose i could make special circumstances - where he still wants to watch over his brothers ( as they have their memories wiped that is all they know) and that to complete the task he needs a machine beyond recongition. but just a thought :drool: thanks for the reply Uncle mel Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169156-grey-knight-dreadnoughts/#findComment-1996800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmi Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I would gladly accept HQ dreadnought choice with option for Holocaust and other psychic powers. NFW is not so important, but sword wielding dreadnought would be very handsome being. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169156-grey-knight-dreadnoughts/#findComment-1996835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 I would gladly accept HQ dreadnought choice with option for Holocaust and other psychic powers. NFW is not so important, but sword wielding dreadnought would be very handsome being. well wanted to make him a giant grey death machine with a golden assult cannon with red enscribings on each barrel so looks like its just stopped spinning and is glowing . for the sword part was thinking of a twin ended halberd pole (idea is meant to be it spinns really quickly choping anything infront of said dreadnought up.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169156-grey-knight-dreadnoughts/#findComment-1996845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prathios Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 From the lexicanum:Like other Space Marine Chapters, mortally wounded Grey Knights are sometimes placed within the massive battle armor known as a Dreadnought. Unlike other Chapters, however, Grey Knights do not look upon this extension of their life as an honour - all Grey Knights desire to be brought to the crypts underneath the Temple of the Emperor on Titan and laid to rest with their brothers over continuing life inside a machine. As such, Grey Knight Dreadnoughts are extremely rare. so i would imagine it to be a bit un-fluffy, but that shouldn't stop you from doing it anyway! Mel It is rare, not unfluffy. A GK GM Dreadnought could be a very real possiblity and what an impressive possibility it would be. I can't see a unit like that being any less than 200 points. I'd make him a Veny Ironclad. 13 armor re-rolls and a handful of psychic powers. It would be a fun HQ to run like that in a friendly game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169156-grey-knight-dreadnoughts/#findComment-1996881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 It is rare, not unfluffy. A GK GM Dreadnought could be a very real possiblity and what an impressive possibility it would be. Yes. It's not so much a rarity in that the Dreadnoughts themselves are rare, it is because a Grey Knight must give his personal consent before being put in a Dreadnought. Few will do so, but there's nothing to stop you saying a particular Grand Master has. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169156-grey-knight-dreadnoughts/#findComment-1996892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 One way to look at it is this: if something can happen, then after 40,000 years it probably has happened. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169156-grey-knight-dreadnoughts/#findComment-1996925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Mel Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 It is rare, not unfluffy. A GK GM Dreadnought could be a very real possiblity and what an impressive possibility it would be. Yes. It's not so much a rarity in that the Dreadnoughts themselves are rare, it is because a Grey Knight must give his personal consent before being put in a Dreadnought. Few will do so, but there's nothing to stop you saying a particular Grand Master has. well that is kind of what i meant, it is just that i think a young GK would be willing to do such a thing sooner than abattle weary grand master. of course it can be done and i think it would make a very cool model. Mel Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169156-grey-knight-dreadnoughts/#findComment-1997065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidoneus Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I think something that might help explain a GM asking to be a dreadnought, and that would add some nice fluff to your special character, would be to explain some task he didn't have time to complete during his lifetime. Perhaps some daemonic entity he needs to banish, or some chaos lord he needs to stop from ascending... anything along those lines would be a good reason for a GM to make the personal sacrifice of being made into a dreadnought. Just a thought. Edit: As a side note, if you follow the link in my signature you'll find some homwgrown rules we're working on for updating GKs. Your idea could easily be implemented by giving a dreadnought Shrouding, Aegis, possibly Blessed, and Venerable, and then equipping him with an assault cannon, DCCW, and probably an Incinerator as well. That would bring him up to 210pts (220 with blessed), but he'd be quite a beast. You could also forgo shrouding to save 30pts, since he'll be up close anyway, but for fluff reasons you might want to keep it anyway. Keep in mind, these aren't official, but if your friends want to give 'em a try, the options are there to make your GM dread a reality. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169156-grey-knight-dreadnoughts/#findComment-1997122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 I think something that might help explain a GM asking to be a dreadnought, and that would add some nice fluff to your special character, would be to explain some task he didn't have time to complete during his lifetime. Perhaps some daemonic entity he needs to banish, or some chaos lord he needs to stop from ascending... anything along those lines would be a good reason for a GM to make the personal sacrifice of being made into a dreadnought. Just a thought. Edit: As a side note, if you follow the link in my signature you'll find some homwgrown rules we're working on for updating GKs. Your idea could easily be implemented by giving a dreadnought Shrouding, Aegis, possibly Blessed, and Venerable, and then equipping him with an assault cannon, DCCW, and probably an Incinerator as well. That would bring him up to 210pts (220 with blessed), but he'd be quite a beast. You could also forgo shrouding to save 30pts, since he'll be up close anyway, but for fluff reasons you might want to keep it anyway. Keep in mind, these aren't official, but if your friends want to give 'em a try, the options are there to make your GM dread a reality. well the idea i had going was to set up a scenario with with friend - him playing khorne - me playing gk (obviously) i wanted the scenario to be im winning in set condition than out of no where he fields a "soul grinder" that cripples my commander - then my men have to retreat, hold out until he comes back in the form of a grandmaster dreadought then .............well who knows this is where it gets interesting - the gk venerable dreadnought housing a grand master vs a demonic metal killing machine that has been captured BUT given the blessing of khonre making it even stronger Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169156-grey-knight-dreadnoughts/#findComment-1997722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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