Uprising Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 For the past few days i had an idea that keep popping up. What if i have an two armies in one. My idea is to have an Alpha Legion warband join my WB host. I know about there rivary between them but i`ll think about something. This idea came from Warriors of Aggannor on pg 70 the csm codex. Here is want i figured out so far Prons - I find an excuse to use the Warhammer fanstasty DE Hydra model. This gives me an army that dfferent. More conversion opperunity Something different to paint without starting a different army Cons nothing i can think of. What do you think about my crazy idea? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169334-an-unexcept-alliance/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemon*hunter Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 It sounds fine to me :) Just watch out for those damned fluff nazis... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169334-an-unexcept-alliance/#findComment-1999071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drac0 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 As long as you're enjoying building the army and you follow the rules WYSIWYG and stuff like that I would have no problem playing against such an army. After all fluff keeps on changing, you never know what will happen next *sobs because can't use Cypher anymore* lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169334-an-unexcept-alliance/#findComment-1999129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Important Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Chaos legions can rally for many reasons I see no problem with it. @ Draco0 Cypher was a lost but I miss Doomrider more! He was so awesome and actualy the times I used him he always just cruised around doing nothing but I still love that damn dude! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169334-an-unexcept-alliance/#findComment-1999299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 yeah but thats a bit like a zerker / NM team up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169334-an-unexcept-alliance/#findComment-1999420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirrelKing Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 After all fluff keeps on changing, you never know what will happen next *sobs because can't use Cypher anymore* lol There were rules that came out during 3rd ed (IA I think...) that are still usable, meaning not broken, in 5th. I played with him and TBH, he's not that great but hey, he's Cypher! Plus he is considered an Elite with those rules so you can still take 2 HQs. Opponent's permission required of course! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169334-an-unexcept-alliance/#findComment-1999476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argon Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I really don't see a problem with this, other than the fact that the Word Bearers and Alpha Legion have a bit of a rivalry going on since the WB treat their cultists like crap and see them as meatsheilds to be slaughtered while the Alphas use them as commando like units that can be a vital part of their plan. Other than that, I don't really see a problem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169334-an-unexcept-alliance/#findComment-1999564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirrelKing Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Plus, I wouldn't put it past the AL using their enemies as "allies" to further their own plans. The WB could be just one more head for the Hydra. Not sure I know the WB angle though... don't know enought fluff on them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169334-an-unexcept-alliance/#findComment-1999568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argon Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Plus, I wouldn't put it past the AL using their enemies as "allies" to further their own plans. The WB could be just one more head for the Hydra. Not sure I know the WB angle though... don't know enought fluff on them. True. The Alpha's would do that. The WB on the other hand simply follow the will of their Dark Apostle, for his words and his will are that of the Gods themselves. If he says that they must fight alongside the Alpha's, the Host will (probably somewhat grudgingly) do so. Perhaps the Dark Apostle needs the Alpha's unique skills? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169334-an-unexcept-alliance/#findComment-2000085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 or, even, once upon a time, in a galaxy far away, your 2 leaders fought alongside each other and won each other's respect, owe each other their lives or some such, this gives a bit of leeway if the WB need some expert infiltrators, while it gives the alpha legion some "disposable" foot troops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169334-an-unexcept-alliance/#findComment-2000102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drac0 Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 or, even, once upon a time, in a galaxy far away, your 2 leaders fought alongside each other and won each other's respect, owe each other their lives or some such, this gives a bit of leeway if the WB need some expert infiltrators, while it gives the alpha legion some "disposable" foot troops. I don't really buy the whole "I owe you my life" thing IMO that would be more of a loyalist thing. I rather follow more along the lines of hidden agendas from both legion leading to the same place. I could see the AL taking advantage of the WB. By this I mean the WB would be used as a diversion while the AL carried out their hidden plans behind enemy lines. @SquirrelKing - I just wanted to use Cypher, well, because its Cypher and also for the fluff (Fallen). But its kinda hard to find the model now, except on ebay. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169334-an-unexcept-alliance/#findComment-2000112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Of Chaos Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 @SquirrelKing - I just wanted to use Cypher, well, because its Cypher and also for the fluff (Fallen). But its kinda hard to find the model now, except on ebay. Try here Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169334-an-unexcept-alliance/#findComment-2001196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 The WB on the other hand simply follow the will of their Dark Apostle, for his words and his will are that of the Gods themselves. If he says that they must fight alongside the Alpha's, the Host will (probably somewhat grudgingly) do so. Perhaps the Dark Apostle needs the Alpha's unique skills? The dark apostle is an Alpha Legionaire. :wallbash: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169334-an-unexcept-alliance/#findComment-2001210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemon*hunter Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 There were rules that came out during 3rd ed Where might i aquire those rules??? *looks hopefully* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169334-an-unexcept-alliance/#findComment-2001280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirrelKing Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Well, in old White Dwarfs :) They had a segment called "Heroes and Villains of the 41st Millenium" where every month they would detail the story of a special character and give rules for them. Quite a few characters passed in those articles. Now I don't remember the exact WD number for the one with Cypher: I gave away all my old WDs and had written down the rules for Cypher, so I didn't need it anymore :( Not sure if I can just give out the rules on the forum? Anybody knows? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169334-an-unexcept-alliance/#findComment-2001300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argon Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 The WB on the other hand simply follow the will of their Dark Apostle, for his words and his will are that of the Gods themselves. If he says that they must fight alongside the Alpha's, the Host will (probably somewhat grudgingly) do so. Perhaps the Dark Apostle needs the Alpha's unique skills? The dark apostle is an Alpha Legionaire. :P :) Alpharius, you sneaky bastard :( ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169334-an-unexcept-alliance/#findComment-2001332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uprising Posted May 28, 2009 Author Share Posted May 28, 2009 Ok i see now i`m not crazy and decide to go for it. :D Now there just a few things to find out *Painting guide for AL(Seen the one here but don`t like it) *Forest basing(Seen the one here but don`t like it) *Any ideas, why they would join. thanks for reading Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169334-an-unexcept-alliance/#findComment-2003630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiri the Corrupted Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 The Word Bearers would only join forces with Alpha Legion if they were told to do so by their Dark Apostle, there is some ancient hatred and a lot of old grudges between those legions. Not all of it had to do with the cultists, though that is why they often clash in the current era. But if the Dark Apostle had need of some infiltrating troops or simply needed the manpower, he would have allied. Another twist you might want to explore is that the Apostle saw something in a dream vision or received some powerfull portents indicating that Alpha Legionnairs would be needed in a future plan of his. The Alpha Legion would have less trouble allying themselves to the Word Bearers, being all practical and independant and all. Besides, the Alpha Legion is very fractured and some elements make a living as mercenaries. Not all of them are sneaky gits, though even the ones that aren't might still be, you just never know... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/169334-an-unexcept-alliance/#findComment-2003775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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