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In conjunction with this thread, and my paints arriving this morning, I spent about two hours tonight painting my first Space Marine in about 7 years. I need to mention a few things: this guy was only about 1/2 primed, I didn't have any black, and I'm pretty sure I need some new brushes.

 

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5986/oath104.th.jpg

 

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5821/oath105.th.jpg

 

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4605/oath106.th.jpg

 

Oh, all my old greens were also dried out & again, the brushes were in rough shape, so the eyes are pretty haggard.

 

Feel free to rip this paint job apart.

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It actually looks alot like my DIY chapter.

 

Which is black armor, with purple shoulderpads/helm and accents.

From what i can tell your painting isn't so bad really, if i was going to say anything about it i'd just say GW inks.

 

Give the purple a leviathan purple wash + badab black wash for some nice shading.

Some badab black in the corners of the white shoulder pads possibly aswell.

 

And give the grey a rundown with the Black wash and your golden.

 

Your painting isn't really the problem, it actually looks pretty good! Just give it some depth for that extra edge and you've got a nice model.

Well, there's no way for me to get GW's washes easily, so I picked up some Liquitex Burnt Umber ink. I haven't used it yet because: A. I've never used a wash before & B. It's very brown (like, "Why yes, it has been raining diarrhea" brown), so I may return it and have the art supply store order me some black.

 

I've been working on a Combat Squad of 5 Marines the past few days, so here's a WIP shot.

 

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4729/oath112.th.jpg

 

Still need to do details, touch ups, & highlights. I also have to completely redo my work-flow for these because it's kind of become "Paint a color, touch up everything".

 

What do you guys think of the blue bases?

 

Here's a ridiculous SM with Heavy Bolter for critiquing too. I think it looks very silly, but not completely improbable.

 

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/8076/oath113.th.jpg

 

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9010/oath114.th.jpg

Thanks to everyone for the feedback. I'd been getting a bit discouraged after painting the bases created 20+ minutes of touch up work. I tried painting some eyes last night; I don't care how great any tutorial is, painting eye lenses is a bitch unless you have a telescope.

 

Definetly keep the blue base it looks great! Just touch up the base edge and the inside of the leg. Otherwise though i think

 

the colors work well together and if you follow what Malevolent said it will look impressive.

 

I haven't gotten any other feedback on the bases, so props to you. I know the inside of the leg needs a touch up, but I think I'm going to finish the details before doing any more touch ups. I'll post more pictures as the work progresses.

Can't get the GW washes? How terrible!

 

Have you tried ordering online? lol i know that's a shot in the dark. But i mean.. a brothers got to paint.

 

 

As for the newer models, your still going strong. The blue base is pretty nice, good contrast but yeah, you need to touch up on the models legs and your set.

 

The HB guy is pretty rad, looks like someone who was using it 'traditionally' just got killed, so homeboy picked it up and just went off.

I've completed Brother Generico of the Emperor's Glorious Chapter 1,269. The grey & purple were highlighted with one color, then the whole model was washed with Ghetto Grimdark (1 part Liquitex Carbon Black ink to 10 parts water).

 

Before wash

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2329/oath115.th.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8194/oath116.th.jpg

 

After wash

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1623/oath117.th.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5416/oath118.th.jpg

 

Definitely not washing the white in the shoulder pads next time. Still working on a good method to get the white even & not :cussty. Feel free to rip this paint job apart.

Hmmm, i think your main problem is that wash. it doesn't seem to be sitting on the paint quite right, but that might just be me. otherwise looking pretty good. to get a decent white colour use the dheneb stone foundation paint if you can get hold of it (i read the post about you having a hard time getting hold of gw washes) as a base and use a couple of thin coats of skull white for a really bright finish or shade down a touch darker first then highlight with loads of thin coats of white (depends on preference) about 8 parts water to 1 part paint works well for me, but find a medium you're comfortable with.

Update: I've now completed a Combat Squad. The dude all the way on the left in the first two pictures is the model I posted earlier, which was completely washed in my homemade Ghetto Grimdark. The other 4 models only had the wash applied to the grey & metal areas, as I decided I liked the way the unwashed purple popped. The white is still a nightmare.

 

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1356/oath119.th.jpg

 

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4356/oath120.th.jpg

 

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3848/oath121.th.jpg

 

Any additional feedback, critiquing, or commentary is more than welcome; even you just want to tell me to stop *****ing up this forum with more posts.

 

I am currently working on painting up to white on the other half of this squad, and may post WIP pictures later today. Thanks for looking.

overall I think its really very good. Your white is a little lumpy ;) so you could try a very light grey rather than white suitably thinned down. AStro grey foundation thined 50:50 with water will give you a very nice "white effect" thats much smoother. My painting came on well once I realised that the technical preparation is as important as the painting itself. Both cleaning your models and thining the paint with water to improve the surface flow will help with coverage and smoothness. Also you might want to dry some dry brushing to highlight finer details (like the skulls on bolters for example).

Here's an example of a grey white finish using Astro grey foundation washed with very watered down black ink so its a little darker than out of the bottle: (hope you don't mind...)

gallery_17897_2497_311329.jpg

Several hours later, and 2 coats each of...

 

Light Grey

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/3528/oath1221.th.jpg

 

1:1 White to Light Grey

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7023/oath1222.th.jpg

 

3:1 White to Light Grey

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/791/oath1223.th.jpg

 

5:1 White to Light Grey

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/778/oath1224.th.jpg

 

White

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/5563/oath1225.th.jpg

 

 

and it's still too thick :sick: But, it looks more like white overall, right?

...but smoother than before... The one problem with thinning paint is that everything else starts to show up; finger marks, bits of :) left over on the paint brush, dust. So preparing and handling the model and cleaning brushes starts to become much more important.

 

I don't think you need to go with so many coats - if you can get the foundation paint series its worth it to do the base coat and then highlight up and shade down as necessary.

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