Pan40k Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Can you guys tell me how many HQ's I need for 2k? I'm thinking its 2 but want to be sure. Also, if I want to take an Inquisitor Lord for some reason how would I swing that one? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 3. 2000-750= 1250 (1) 1250-750= 500 (2) 500>0 (3) You cant take an inquisitor lord, as all our HQ choices are Compulsory. Sorry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/#findComment-2009475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzouken Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 ...and done. That's gotta be some sort of record. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/#findComment-2009505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 What can I say, been doing this song and dance for years. So, to the OP: any other questions? always happy to help. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/#findComment-2009569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan40k Posted June 3, 2009 Author Share Posted June 3, 2009 I'm sure there will be more to come guys. (Questions) Thnks. again guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/#findComment-2009615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Anytime. Welcome to the Fang! Ales in the corner, roasts on the table B). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/#findComment-2009628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Can you guys tell me how many HQ's I need for 2k? I'm thinking its 2 but want to be sure. Also, if I want to take an Inquisitor Lord for some reason how would I swing that one? seriously? B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/#findComment-2009645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Actually Lunchbox this one comes up atleast once a month... Im suprised you havent seen a dozen threads with that question. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/#findComment-2009687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sköll Khan Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 You cant take an inquisitor lord, as all our HQ choices are Compulsory. Sorry. If he took 1500 Space wolves and 500 =][= (including 2 =][= troop choices)... ...couldn't he take 2 SW HQ and 1 =][= HQ?... ...that would fulfill the SW HQ rule, wouldn't it?... i'm alittle out of date with these "allies" rules... [reclines with an ale in hand as the pups gather to hear another of Grandwolf Skoll's digressions to the 2nd edition]... was once that, the codex said who your allies could be, and you took em, a percentage of your points it was, but you couldn't get much for 1000 points you see... but back then there was no =][= but some skinny looking Grey Knights knocking about from Rouge trader, ugly buggers to, but then 80% of an army had a single pose. As I remember you could even take Eld...[cough] but those were the good old days... ...4 inches you could move back then, you pups running at what? 6 now? and an assault phase?, but tables were shorter back then as I recall. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/#findComment-2009855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 If he took 1500 Space wolves and 500 =][= (including 2 =][= troop choices)......couldn't he take 2 SW HQ and 1 =][= HQ?... ...that would fulfill the SW HQ rule, wouldn't it?... No, because the Inquisitor Lord is not a Space Wolf HQ. This was covered in the very first DH FAQ, and neither of us have had codex updates since. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/#findComment-2009896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Actually Lunchbox this one comes up atleast once a month... Im suprised you havent seen a dozen threads with that question. these questions come up because peeps won't take the time to read the faqs wich have been posted before. Maybe thats also why Lunchbox put that coment down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/#findComment-2009900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sköll Khan Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 I just flicked through the DH codex (published 2003) and FAQ... it explicitly says: "DH units can be included in any of the following codex armies: Space marines, including variant armies such as BA, SPACE WOLVES, DA..." You must take the compulsory units from the parent Codex, ie 1 HQ and 2 Troops from Codex:SW, (and for SW - 1 HQ for every 750 points...) you are then limited to 0-1 HQ, 0-1 Elite, 0-2 troop, 0-1 fast attack from the Codex:DH. No heavy support may be taken. The 5th ED DH FAQ found HERE, has no Question pertaining to allies that would effect this. Did I miss something? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/#findComment-2009932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan40k Posted June 3, 2009 Author Share Posted June 3, 2009 Actually Lunchbox this one comes up atleast once a month... Im suprised you havent seen a dozen threads with that question. these questions come up because peeps won't take the time to read the faqs wich have been posted before. Maybe thats also why Lunchbox put that coment down. Theres also the fact that the rules are so out of date that half of them dont apply, thus why people ask questions that might seem overly basic to veterans. We all gotta learn to walk and usually it starts with a crawl (at least for me.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/#findComment-2009938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzouken Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 RUN! RUN! SCHNELL SCHNELL! *cracks off a shot or two with his bolt pistol* But yeah, there's no schism between a SW force and the DH allies. If you take 1k of SW and 500 of Inq, you're actually just taking 1500 of SW and thus do not have an additional HQ slot to fill with the Inq Lord. Take an allied Elite Inquisitor all you want though! It means you can't take an assassin, but you get cheap heavy bolters! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/#findComment-2009964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan40k Posted June 3, 2009 Author Share Posted June 3, 2009 RUN! RUN! SCHNELL SCHNELL! *cracks off a shot or two with his bolt pistol* But yeah, there's no schism between a SW force and the DH allies. If you take 1k of SW and 500 of Inq, you're actually just taking 1500 of SW and thus do not have an additional HQ slot to fill with the Inq Lord. Take an allied Elite Inquisitor all you want though! It means you can't take an assassin, but you get cheap heavy bolters! I guess thats a cheap way to get a Hood but in essence what I was really hunting down is wether or not SW can use Assassins. Thanks guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/#findComment-2009968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Sköll Khan Posted Today, 03:34 PM I just flicked through the DH codex (published 2003) and FAQ... it explicitly says: "DH units can be included in any of the following codex armies: Space marines, including variant armies such as BA, SPACE WOLVES, DA..." You must take the compulsory units from the parent Codex, ie 1 HQ and 2 Troops from Codex:SW, (and for SW - 1 HQ for every 750 points...) you are then limited to 0-1 HQ, 0-1 Elite, 0-2 troop, 0-1 fast attack from the Codex:DH. No heavy support may be taken. The 5th ED DH FAQ found HERE, has no Question pertaining to allies that would effect this. Did I miss something? Damn, they've not retained it. It was in the first published one in WD 28-something (288?), just after DH were first released. Obviously they've not kept it in. I wouldn't have expected it to have changed though, since neither of our codicies have been changed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/#findComment-2009972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sköll Khan Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Codex: Space Wolves does not stipulate that the HQ need be a from the SW list, its of course assumed in a pure SW army but... ... the rule governs their force organisation chart, that they share with their allies. if you are sharing the force organisation chart with allies (as you would with any other army)... ... as long as you have a 1 HQ and 2 Troops from the Parent codex, you are fulfilling all the requirements. You could take the 0-1 DH HQ ally as one of the force organisation's 1 per 750. Am I wrong? (Pan40k: You have your Inquisitor Lord Cake and put an assassin cherry on top...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/#findComment-2010001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Actually Lunchbox this one comes up atleast once a month... Im suprised you havent seen a dozen threads with that question. these questions come up because peeps won't take the time to read the faqs wich have been posted before. Maybe thats also why Lunchbox put that coment down. hit that one right on the head. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/#findComment-2010217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Codex: Space Wolves does not stipulate that the HQ need be a from the SW list,its of course assumed in a pure SW army but... ... the rule governs their force organisation chart, that they share with their allies. if you are sharing the force organisation chart with allies (as you would with any other army)... ... as long as you have a 1 HQ and 2 Troops from the Parent codex, you are fulfilling all the requirements. You could take the 0-1 DH HQ ally as one of the force organisation's 1 per 750. Am I wrong? (Pan40k: You have your Inquisitor Lord Cake and put an assassin cherry on top...) Yes... compulsory means you have to take it. Since we have to have an exact number of HQs, all our HQs are compulsory. We ignore the normal FOC for this. Kinda like how Demons ignore the deployment rules... etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170147-hqs-and-allies/#findComment-2010320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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