Raven Angel Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Ok one thing I have noticed missing in here is discutions about about converting older tanks out of the newer models. I have done the ebay trole and check with every GW mail order in Eroupe and the rest of the English and Spanish speaking world and know that it is just not practical to equip any really large army with ventage tank models. I have 1.5 MK1 LandRaiders, 2 MK1 Preads, 2 MK2 Preads 2 or 3 old Rhinos and 1 each Razorback, Whirlwind and Vindicator. It can be done for about the price of 2 FW Thunderhaks but most of use just don't have that kind of cash rolling around. What I would like are first off any info on when the different Mks of tanks came into use and second ideas on how to "Make the new Look Old" I have a Pre HH force in the gestation stage along sid my 40K DA armies(20,000+ points real should count as more than one right?) and my girl freind wants old tanks for her Space Wolfs too. Any help or idea no mater how off the wall would be a help. Also anybody got a consisten workable MKII Dread Conversion out there? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Seriously? Most people I know would love to ditch their old Rhinos, trade you strait accross, or even 2 for 1 in many cases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/#findComment-2011793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-S6 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Is there much demand for old rhinos and their variants? I have loads sitting around. (approximately: 12xrhinos?, 1xmk1 pred, 2xmk2 pred, 1xwhirlwind, 1xvindicator, 1xrazorback. more if I can find them) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/#findComment-2011799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 See what I mean? Scott-S6: Some people feel the older models are better because they have small profiles, and are thus better at getting cover and avoiding fire under the TLOS rules. Some people want them because 2nd ed and Rogue Trader models are associated with "Heresy Era" marines. Either group would probly love to take them off your hands. Myself, I prefer the new models... I think they look nicer, and the larger size seems better- its a tank after all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/#findComment-2011800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-S6 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 I know, the new Rhino is a much better model - and doubly so for the variants. It had never occurred to me to sell the old ones. I'll have to dig them out. Unfortunate that the B&C doesn't have a sale/trade forum - I'll probably put them on Dakka instead. What are they worth? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/#findComment-2011804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted June 5, 2009 Author Share Posted June 5, 2009 Well I had to part out the whirlwind from Germany back in 05 and I live in the states so that was about 80 bucks. I payed between 25 and 60 bucks each for the others on ebay. It took a few years to get that many together. What I would like to do is take the new models and find cheap and easy ways to make them look like the old ones or at least close to the old ones. I love the new kits but they just don't feel right in an 30K theamed army to me. With as much care and attention as I see lavished on the Marines themselves I'd like to apply the same attion to detail to the tanks and speeders. http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh65/Starfox1701/strangelandraider.jpg This pic is a perfect example. While I know to from the HH art books it looks enough like the Mk I to fit the time frame but could be made from a MkIII kit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/#findComment-2011851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-S6 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 USD 25-60 for an old rhino? Seriously? I'm going to dig them out and put them on Dakka tomorrow. They'll be a good bit cheaper than that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/#findComment-2011863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted June 5, 2009 Author Share Posted June 5, 2009 Yes I'm serious. Some ebay auctions can get stupid high and if you get too caught up in geting what you want you walet winds up feeling like it got hit with a Melta Gun blast. :eek Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/#findComment-2011878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-S6 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 I'm thinking around £7/$11 for a rhino and £15/$24 for variants. Sound fair? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/#findComment-2011895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Thats very fair... Ive seen prices twice that high... most charge around 18 for a rhino, and 30 for a variant. Id use that as a starting point, let people offer you down a bit if youd like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/#findComment-2011906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-S6 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 If anyone on here want's to call dibs on anything before it goes up on Dakka then send me a PM. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/#findComment-2011957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted June 5, 2009 Author Share Posted June 5, 2009 Ok so any conversion Ideas? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/#findComment-2012521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razrhaghul Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 really top make the new ones look old for conversions, i guess you can add a rounded base, bisected down tye middle or even use tau vehicle hatches for the side doors. and then either scratch build the uni-visor out of plasticard/cardboard. or do the dual visor, and just cut some plasticard/cardboard plates and place one over each visor, then use either just not use the flip-wind shield or cut out the open-portholes and glue them to the plates. then just get some handlebars out of wire or from the guard vehicles sprues and glue them on the top hatches. honestly it would probably be far easier to scratch build old rhinos out of plasticard/cardboard as their kits were really just a parallelogram with track housings, and exhaust tubes on the flanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/#findComment-2012635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 You can buy them off eBay for the same price as the new models, which is entirely reasonable as far as I am concerned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/#findComment-2012808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted June 6, 2009 Author Share Posted June 6, 2009 I guess nobody ever thought about this before. I wonder why? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/#findComment-2013404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Cause the ones who have done so are hiding in the PCA forum :P. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/#findComment-2013534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted June 7, 2009 Author Share Posted June 7, 2009 Whats the PCA forum? never mind I found it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/#findComment-2013868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Mel Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 If i knew old rhino's could be sold for that much cash, i wouldn't have chopped 4 up for terrain :lol: oh well, i like my latest rhino conversions alot though. (even though i can't use 5 rhino's as grey knights player.) My new to old conversion: My old to new conversion Mel Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/#findComment-2013880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted June 7, 2009 Author Share Posted June 7, 2009 Now thats what I'm talking about. Thanks for the pics man Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170311-make-the-new-look-old/#findComment-2014286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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