Pig Of Sparta Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 I've had a few questions about how I went about painting my Sons of Orar marines, so I thought I'd stick up this wee tutorial just in case anyone wants to give it a try themselves. I'm using photos of a mark iv Dreadnought being painted with this method, but obviously the technique can be adapted to any size of mini. Paints Required: Blood Red Red Gore Chaos Black Scorched Brown Scab Red or Mechrite Red Vomit Brown (optional) Skull White(optional) Badab Black (optional) Other equipment: two empty paint pots brushes you don't mind using to mix paint with Preparation Step One In one of your empty paint pots, make up a mix of 50% Scorched Brown and 50% Chaos Black. Add water until it'll flow freely from your brush. Adding a tiny drop of washing up liquid can help with this. Now put it to one side we'll come back to it later. Step Two In the other empty paint pot make up a 50% Red Gore and 50% Blood Red Mix. Again adding a little water to this will make it flow more easily from your brushes, and help stop those annoying visible brush strokes. Put this pot to one side for now as well. Painting Step One Having undercoated your mini(s) in your chosen colour (I use Skull White Spray undercoat, not that it really matters), apply an even basecoat of either Scab Red or Mechrite Red to the armour plates. It doesn't really matter which you use but Scab Red dries slightly darker. I've tried it with both and once you're finished you can't tell the difference. This might take a couple of layers, but the smoother the basecoat, obviously the smoother your final layers will look. http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/markivdreadredbase1.jpg Step Step Two Use your Scorched Brown/Chaos Black 'ink' that you mixed up earlier to shade all the recesses in and around your Scab Red/Mechrite Red armour. You can wash the entire model but it makes it harder to get a nice even shade to the red later. If like me you don't have the steadiest hands, you may find that you get some of the ink into places it's not supposed to be, the Blood Red/red Gore mix will cover over these mistakes but you may find it'll take a few layers to conceal them fully, so try to be as neat as possible. Once your done leave to dry for at least 30 mins. If you've really splashed the stuff where you shouldn't have then I'd recommend tidying up the red with either Mechrite/Scab Red at this point, as it'll make the next step easier. http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/redshading.jpg Step Three Go over all the armour with your 50/50 mix of Blood Red and Red Gore leaving the Scorched Brown/Chaos Black in the recesses. You may need to keep watering this down a little as you go along to keep it nice and smooth. If like me you find that you've accidentally gone over some of the shading, then you can use Badab Black or the Scorched Brown/Chaos Black 'ink' to re-shade. http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/topred2.jpg Step Four (optional) To highlight, mix a little Vomit Brown and Skull White into some of your Blood Red/Red Gore mix. The colour your aiming for is an almost pink kind of colour. Apply this sparingly to the very edges of the armour plates. Step Five Complete the rest of the mini as you see fit. If you give it a try let me know, and if you've any comments or criticism about it, or this tutorial then please let me know. This is the first tutorial I've written, so if it's not quite up to scratch then I apologise :( James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistinthunder Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 man you are AWESOME ! but how do you do your white Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2020049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted June 13, 2009 Author Share Posted June 13, 2009 Ask and ye shall recieve. I'll try and get something about the white added on over the weekend. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2020297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistinthunder Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 awesome cause im going to being doing a sons of orar soon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2020392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted June 13, 2009 Author Share Posted June 13, 2009 I'd like to see them when you get them done, if I may. There's not enough fans of the S.o.O out there! :). James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2020812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
averykess Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 nice red! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2022055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted June 15, 2009 Author Share Posted June 15, 2009 Pig of Sparta's White Paints Required: Space Wolves Grey Shadow Grey Skull White Method: Step One: Base coat the areas you want to be white with Space Wolves Grey. Step Two: Thin down some Shadow Grey and shade in and around the recesses of the Space Wolves Grey areas. (the consitency you're aiming for is not a quite that of a wash, just thin enough so that the paint flows freely from the brush) Step Three: Correct any slip ups with Space Wolves Grey. Step Four: Using a 50/50 mix of Space Wolves Grey and Skull White go back over the white areas. It gives you a great not-quite white that looks much better than pure Skull White. Step Five:(optional) To highlight use pure Skull White Hope this helps twistinthunder and anyone else who wondered. James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2022150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistinthunder Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 awesome that does help Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2022357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verpine Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Great! I was just looking at your marines and I've always wanted to do sons of orar! Edit: "In one of your empty paint pots, make up a mix of 50% Scorched Brown and 50% Chaos Black. Add water until it'll flow freely from your brush. Adding a tiny drop of washing up liquid can help with this. Now put it to one side we'll come back to it later." Could you use ogryn flesh for this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2023474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 Possibly verpine but I couldn't say 100% certainly. The only washes I've used so far are Badad Black and Devlan Mud. I guess you could use those in a pinch but obviously the shades won't be quite the same as the 'ink' If you wanted to try Ogryn Flesh could you let me know how you get on? James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2024092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verpine Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Oh, duh! I meant devlan mud, I just couldn't think of the name. Thanks. So, could you use that? I think I might actually go through with this chapter if my new PS3 doesn't drain all my money. <_< edit: and also, can you just use an upside down UM transfer to help you do their symbol? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2024972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 Oh. Um yeah I guess Devlan mud would be an suitable substitute but the shading effect will be lighter, although you could then go over it with Badab Black and this should darken it down yet still retain the 'browness' of the shading. (whispering) I used the inverted Ultramarine transfers for all of my mini's... so yeah you can. I find it easier to cut them roughly half way up though (so you're removing the 'top' of the loop) as this makes them sit on the shoulder pads a little easier. Then you just use them as a guide like you said ;) James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2025607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofwaranddeath Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 thats amazing :huh: good stuff and seems very eazzzy! I like it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2037409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jimster Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 well i wanted to start a chapter that you dont see very often and seein the result of your models (using as i might say a fairly simple painting technique) i am goin to start a small force of sons or orar ^_^ thanx for the tutorial its great jim Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2038924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofwaranddeath Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Well after almost completing the first mini in this scheme...well....Im at a loss :blink: Its just im doing following the steps but im not getting what you've shown. To me the mini still looks like all I did was paint scab red on black with a black wash and drybrush of a lighter red. and thats not what im doing btw, that just what it looks like. And I dont know why!!! :devil: Also how do you keep the paint from building up in the little crevices in the front of the thigh plate armor. after two coats (which have water added to them to help them smooth) it builds up in there quick so by the time the wash time comes around theres no where for the wash to go!!! plz help a brother out here as this is bumming me out from painting :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2040869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted July 5, 2009 Author Share Posted July 5, 2009 @ the jimster: Not bother mate, glad to have converted another painter to Sons of Orar :blink: @ sonofwaranddeath: I'm really sorry it's not working for you. I can't think what you could be doing 'wrong'. By the paint looks drybrushed do you mean it looks really patchy/chalky? If that's the case then I'm afraid you might have to recover the afflicted areas with some really thin layers of the red. I found that the red looked patchy when I washed the whole mini witht the 'ink' are you washing or 'blacklining' with it? As for the paint build up in the recesses of the armour; if you're basecoating with scab red I can't think why it'd be too thick. I had some problems controlling the red mix that goes over the basecoat because it ran into some of the recesses but you can correct that by using a detail brush to re-shade the afflicted areas. Do you have/could you send me a photo of what you've got, I might be able to be more helpful if I can take a look at your mini... Again Brother I'm really sorry that it's not working for you and I'll do whatever I can to get this worked out for you :devil: James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2040881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgefather Vulkan Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 hey I just was looking at your S.O.O marines and there really cool and after seeing your painting tutorial I'm going to have to do an army of them (wanted to do a chapter to go with my salamanders and dark angels) and after doing some research they seem awesome in a mysterious way :D Also may I ask how you did the bases, Aquila and metal on your marines so I can try it out (I also suck at doing bases!) Matt Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2042062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted July 7, 2009 Author Share Posted July 7, 2009 @ Forgefather Vulkan: To answer your last questions first, I did the bases by painting the whole base Dark Flesh, then used PVA glue thinned with a little water to glue real dried soil on to the top of the base. Because the grains are so small they have no scale, plus it's free. It'll even take a coat of purity seal as well. ;). Just make sure to stick it in the airing cupboard for a few days so it's reall really dry. The chest eagles were actuall done pretty much the same as the shoulder pads, but with one variation: 1) Base coat the chest eagles with Space Wolves Grey. 2) Thin down some Shadow Grey and shade the recesses of the chest decoration. (the consitency you're aiming for is not a quite that of a wash, just thin enough so that the paint flows freely from the brush) 3) Correct any slip ups with Space Wolves Grey. 4) Wash the chest emblem with Badab Black. and bingo you're done! As for the metal, that was just a slightly thinned layer of Boltgun Metal with a wash of Badab Black, it gives it a nice gun oiled kind of effect. The sword blades were Boltgun Metal, followed by Chainmail, and then the edges of the blade recieved a fine highlight of Mithril Silver. I also added really thin 'stripes' of Mithril Silver to the face of the blade to try and add some texture to the otherwise featureless area. Hope this helps, and I'm glad to have converted another Brother to the Sons of Orar ;) James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2042429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgefather Vulkan Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Thankyou for that brother it is much abliged :D Hopefully in the near future I will be painting some Sons of Orar and I will post some pictures to see what you think of them And any corrections with them would be good. Matt Ps I ain't getting back from America till the end of this month so it could be awhile till I get around to it, but thanks anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2044525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted July 9, 2009 Author Share Posted July 9, 2009 No worries Forgefather Vulkan. America? very flash! With two young children I'm slowly becoming a master of waiting for time to do stuff so don't sweat it :drool:. I'm just starting to paint a Command Squad for the S.o.O so I'm gonna be updating this tutorial with some proper step by step photos of how the red was done, hopefully you and the other brothers who've posted will find them beneficial. I'm looking forward to seeing how your Sons come up, but like I said, there's no rush. James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2045270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Morgalock Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I was actually planning on doing SoO after seeing their photo in (i think it was how to paint citadel miniatures), and this tutorial has definitly set that solid. The only issue i find with your paints is the white, space wolves grey has a blueish tint that seems to show through even with multiple layers of 1/3 swg and 2/3 skull white, it doesnt seem to show up on your rhino doors, and actually didnt on my doors either, but on smaller things like heads it looks very apparent. Could it be somethin im doin wrong? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2045286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgefather Vulkan Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Once again thankyou brother :) And when I do get around to painting some S.o.O I (which I'm really excited about) they should look good as my exams are finished and I have had plenty of painting practise and I have recently made a squad with MK VI helms so it will look good! Though you seemed to have proved that S.o.O don't need the MK VI helms to look cool! Matt Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2045570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 This is a great tutorial for a different style of red power armor, but I'm afraid it's lacking enough pics. If you'd like to add some more step-by-step photos, I'll add it to the Librarium if you wish. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2046342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted July 11, 2009 Author Share Posted July 11, 2009 @ Darth Potato: Thanks, I'd be honoured if you would. I'll be changing the pics in the next week or so as I'm painting up a command squad for my S.o.O just now, so as I complete each step I'll get the necesary photos :P James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2046476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 @ Darth Potato: Thanks, I'd be honoured if you would. I'll be changing the pics in the next week or so as I'm painting up a command squad for my S.o.O just now, so as I complete each step I'll get the necesary photos :) James Sounds great, this tutorial will be a welcomed addition to the growing Librarium. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/170959-pig-of-spartas-red-recipe/#findComment-2046481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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