Vehicles and cover

[DarkGuard]

I understand that for a vehicle to claim 'hull down' at least 50% of its facing being fired at must not be seen by the enemy. However, if a vehicle is sitting in area terrain, will it still be granted a cover save even if it isn't in a 'hull down' position?

 

For example, a Dreadnought is in area cover, but in full view (ie more than 50% of its facing can be seen) by a shooting unit. Does it get the cover save for being in area terrain, as infantry would? Or does it not get it due to it not being a 'hull down' position? Or is there a dividing line between walkers and tanks due to walkers being treated like infantry in many ways?

 

Sorry if this has already been covered before, my Search is a little off at the moment.

 

This has just recently come up while gaming in my local GW and none of us could agree. Thanks in advance.

[Kronk]

Vehicles require true line of sight to be 50% or less to get the cover save, including dreadnoughts.

 

Yes, it sucks. Time to add more trees to area terrain or house rule it during friendly games.

[DarkGuard]

Thanks for the fast reply. That was what I thought (I was shooting at the vehicle). Hopefully I'll be able to argue my case next time I play

[Isiah]

Yes the two specific rulings on this are:

 

• Dreads/walkers are vehicles [p65 BRB]

• Vehicles in area terrain aren't considered obscured as the vehicle 50% hidden rule takes precedence [p62 BRB]

 

Cheers

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