Custodian Athiair Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 i ask this becuase i states that a Drop Pod is an opentopped vechicle and vehicles that are open topped can be charged out of so what do you think? Athiair :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172081-assaulting-out-of-drop-pods/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher 102 Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 In the Movement phase when they arrive, these units may not move any further, other than to disembark from a deep striking transport vehicle. The rule is stating that the models in a drop pod are deep striking themselves. They just disembark rather than form up in a circle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172081-assaulting-out-of-drop-pods/#findComment-2033784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Not quite. When the pod lands, everyone has to get out, and as you can't assault on the turn you deepstrike then you can't assault out of the pod. This might be different in planetstrike, but that isn't out yet so I won't go in to it. Of course you could be a real ass and say that the pod itself deepstriked(struck?), but the marines inside didn't, but even if this did work somehow I don't think you'd get many games in after that. So, in short, no you can't, but it has nothing to do with being open-topped. Edit- Never mind, Cypher's right, there's no rules lawyering available either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172081-assaulting-out-of-drop-pods/#findComment-2033786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreadmad Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 i would say not as it says that a unit that deepstrikes may not assault on the turn they arrive Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172081-assaulting-out-of-drop-pods/#findComment-2033787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Isn't there a thing in the Deep Strike rules themselves that say you can't assault after Deep Striking unless you have a special rule allowing it (ie Heroic Intervention)? So it's a firm No! to assaulting out of Drop Pods from me (outside of Planetstrike, as I don't know those rules). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172081-assaulting-out-of-drop-pods/#findComment-2033927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Planetstrike allows you to IF you have the rule in your units profile and since space marines dont, outside of assault marines, they cannot assault out of DS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172081-assaulting-out-of-drop-pods/#findComment-2034025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDarmy Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 side question.. could a Vanguard vet squad assault out of a DP using "HI" . save a few points on jumppacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172081-assaulting-out-of-drop-pods/#findComment-2034643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 side question.. could a Vanguard vet squad assault out of a DP using "HI" . save a few points on jumppacks. Nope. Heroic Intervention specifically says it only works when Deep Striking with Jump Packs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172081-assaulting-out-of-drop-pods/#findComment-2034646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 side question.. could a Vanguard vet squad assault out of a DP using "HI" . save a few points on jumppacks. Nope. Heroic Intervention specifically says it only works when Deep Striking with Jump Packs. Heroic Intervention doesnt even play into it- they simply dont have the DS rule unless they have JPs, so they dont get the benefits of it without paying 10pts- though Assault marines will be able to assault out of DS for about half the base points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172081-assaulting-out-of-drop-pods/#findComment-2034967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Assault Marines don't have 'Deep Strike' in their army list entry either. They get it from the jump packs. I don't know any planet strike rules or rumours, but I assume they allow any unit that can regularly deep strike to do the DS-assaulting? If that is so, then Terminators will be able to do that just as much as Assault Marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172081-assaulting-out-of-drop-pods/#findComment-2035063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Assault Marines don't have 'Deep Strike' in their army list entry either. They get it from the jump packs. I don't know any planet strike rules or rumours, but I assume they allow any unit that can regularly deep strike to do the DS-assaulting? If that is so, then Terminators will be able to do that just as much as Assault Marines. Correct. TDA, save for SWs, will be able to assault out of DS. So will for instance PAGK FA squads.... and since the attacker needs no troops I think well see alot of those from =][= players in the near future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172081-assaulting-out-of-drop-pods/#findComment-2035118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawks Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 back to the OP - the C:SM drop pods specifically state that "a unit that Deep Strikes via drop pod may not assault in the turn it arrives." so no matter what, be it in planetstrike, apocalypse, or standard 40k, the unit in the DP cannot assault. this is a specific case over-riding the general. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172081-assaulting-out-of-drop-pods/#findComment-2037304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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