The Blood Reaver Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 My freind who is a necron player told me about a rule that makes any unit wishing to assault the nightbringer must take a ld test . But i said that fearless would override it , he however disagreed . Would this effect fearless units ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172237-fearless-models-and-necrons/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 I can't find the rule your friend is talking about (But I'm not a Necron player, so I may have overlooked it). Do you know where in the Codex it is? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172237-fearless-models-and-necrons/#findComment-2035415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood Reaver Posted June 30, 2009 Author Share Posted June 30, 2009 No but he was pretty sure about it he was also using pariahs and flayed ones which seemingly reduced te leader ship of my apparently no longer fearless khorne berzekers . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172237-fearless-models-and-necrons/#findComment-2035417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 the rule is for the C-Tan in general called Manifestation p27 Codex Nec. If you fail a Ld test you can't assault him that turn. Fearless units though are assumed to pass all morale tests so assault till your heart's content. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172237-fearless-models-and-necrons/#findComment-2035428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood Reaver Posted June 30, 2009 Author Share Posted June 30, 2009 Thanks . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172237-fearless-models-and-necrons/#findComment-2035434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 By the same token, pariahs just lower your leadership, so your berzerkers are still fearless. I can't remember what flayed ones do, but I'm fairly sure they don't take away fearless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172237-fearless-models-and-necrons/#findComment-2035465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mycroft Holmes Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 the rule is for the C-Tan in general called Manifestation p27 Codex Nec. If you fail a Ld test you can't assault him that turn. Fearless units though are assumed to pass all morale tests so assault till your heart's content. All Morale checks are Leadership checks. All Leadership checks are NOT Morale checks. Fearless only passess Morale checks. You need to roll for the Leadership check. EDIT EXAMPLE 1: Pinning is a Leadership Check; not a Morale check. Fearless USR specifically calls it out that they will not have to pass that specific type of Leadership check as well as all Morale checks EXAMPLE 2: A Fearless Psyker must pass a Leadership test to cast a psychic power. The Psychic check is another form of Leadership check that is NOT a Morale check. If Fearless allowed you to pass all Leadership checks, you would never have to roll for a Psychic check. Mycroft Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172237-fearless-models-and-necrons/#findComment-2035691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 the rule is for the C-Tan in general called Manifestation p27 Codex Nec. If you fail a Ld test you can't assault him that turn. Fearless units though are assumed to pass all morale tests so assault till your heart's content. All Morale checks are Leadership checks. All Leadership checks are NOT Morale checks. Fearless only passess Morale checks. You need to roll for the Leadership check. EDIT EXAMPLE 1: Pinning is a Leadership Check; not a Morale check. Fearless USR specifically calls it out that they will not have to pass that specific type of Leadership check as well as all Morale checks EXAMPLE 2: A Fearless Psyker must pass a Leadership test to cast a psychic power. The Psychic check is another form of Leadership check that is NOT a Morale check. If Fearless allowed you to pass all Leadership checks, you would never have to roll for a Psychic check. Mycroft 100% true, the C'tan rule calls for a leadership test, NOT a moral test, you must still make the test to assult a C'tan even if fearless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172237-fearless-models-and-necrons/#findComment-2035817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 100% true, the C'tan rule calls for a leadership test, NOT a moral test, you must still make the test to assult a C'tan even if fearless. OOps yes that's quite right. Thanks for correcting :ph34r:. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172237-fearless-models-and-necrons/#findComment-2036056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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