Hotspur Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I'm working up a 2000pt. army list, and I am having a hard time deciding what I want to use for a third HQ. As it sits right now, I have a Ven. Dread and two WGBLs. The wargear for the BLs is: LC, PP, RA, RC, WP, WTN, F/KG. My dilemma is whether I should drop one of the BLs and exchange him for a rune or wolf priest. I know that having solid melee HQs is important, but I also know it's important to supplement w/ characters who have some cool special abilities. Let me know what your opinions on the priests vs. WGBLs are, and the pros and cons for each. Thanks! If you want to get a look at my army thread, here it is: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=171932 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172312-hq-help/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 i find a wolf priest with frags (pw and bp and i wolf are standard kit) for the points very nice ussaly leads one on my blood claw packs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172312-hq-help/#findComment-2036307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demogerg Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 When it comes to HQ my favorite choice is cheap and awesome. WGBL Frostblade, Stormshield, Bolt Pistol, Wolf Pelt, Frag Nades. 95 points of win one game my battle leader built just like this took out 6 bloodcrushers, fateweaver, a demon prince, some nurglings, and started to whack on a epidemius *spelling* completely solo. It helps when i can roll 24 out of 25 invulnerable saves, but yea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172312-hq-help/#findComment-2036725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 When it comes to HQ my favorite choice is cheap and awesome. WGBL Frostblade, Stormshield, Bolt Pistol, Wolf Pelt, Frag Nades. 95 points of win one game my battle leader built just like this took out 6 bloodcrushers, fateweaver, a demon prince, some nurglings, and started to whack on a epidemius *spelling* completely solo. It helps when i can roll 24 out of 25 invulnerable saves, but yea. Illegal WGBL my friend. He can carry up to two weapons ( SS are included as Weapons for reasons explained in C:SM). So he can either have FB/SS, FB/BP, or SS/BP. For 95 points and a solid HQ, a Wolf Priest is totally worth it. Rune Priests have Stormcaller, but they're much more expensive to outfit seeing as they don't start with any weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172312-hq-help/#findComment-2037271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demogerg Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 When it comes to HQ my favorite choice is cheap and awesome. WGBL Frostblade, Stormshield, Bolt Pistol, Wolf Pelt, Frag Nades. 95 points of win one game my battle leader built just like this took out 6 bloodcrushers, fateweaver, a demon prince, some nurglings, and started to whack on a epidemius *spelling* completely solo. It helps when i can roll 24 out of 25 invulnerable saves, but yea. Illegal WGBL my friend. He can carry up to two weapons ( SS are included as Weapons for reasons explained in C:SM). So he can either have FB/SS, FB/BP, or SS/BP. For 95 points and a solid HQ, a Wolf Priest is totally worth it. Rune Priests have Stormcaller, but they're much more expensive to outfit seeing as they don't start with any weapons. the rules for being equiped with 2 weapons were in the BRB of editions past. no such rule exists in 5th edition, and it is not listed as a rule in the codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172312-hq-help/#findComment-2038080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 And I do quote from Codex: Space Wolves, 2000 printing SPACE WOLVES ARMORYA character may carry up to two weapons, but only one of these may be two-handed. Very first line in the Space Wolves armory page buddy. So yes, we can carry only two weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172312-hq-help/#findComment-2038114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf2.3 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Rune priet, TDA, Rune weapon, wolf pelt, storm bolter for me. He's never let me down (or my footsloggin bloodclaws) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172312-hq-help/#findComment-2038119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar the great Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 well my 2 pennys woth for a 2000 pt army it need to be rounded up to 2250, and u need 3 HQ's for a 1500 pt army 2 only (750 per hq?). am i mistaken again? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172312-hq-help/#findComment-2038175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 well my 2 pennys woth for a 2000 pt army it need to be rounded up to 2250, and u need 3 HQ's for a 1500 pt army 2 only (750 per hq?). am i mistaken again? You take the number of HQ's according to this neat little chart. Imagine your army is in a points bracket if it helps you remember easier. For each bracket you go up, you have to add 1 HQ to your list. 0-750 = 1 HQ 751-1500 = 2 HQ 1501-2250 = 3 HQ 2251-3000 = 4 HQ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172312-hq-help/#findComment-2038190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar the great Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 so for a 2000pt army u need 3 hq's which equal 2250? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172312-hq-help/#findComment-2038216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 so for a 2000pt army u need 3 hq's which equal 2250? IF Im right your saying that a 2k army needs 3 HQs, just like a 2250 army- then youd be right. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172312-hq-help/#findComment-2038232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar the great Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 the codex says it needs to be rounded up... 1000pt 1 hq 1500pt 2 hq 2250pt 3 hq 3000pt 4 hq if i'm reading my english right... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172312-hq-help/#findComment-2038241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 the codex says it needs to be rounded up... 1000pt 1 hq 1500pt 2 hq 2250pt 3 hq 3000pt 4 hq if i'm reading my english right... Nope. 500 1HQ 750 1HQ 751 2HQ 1000 2HQ 1500 2HG 1501 3HQ 2250 3HQ 2251 4HQ 3000 4HQ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172312-hq-help/#findComment-2038250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar the great Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 okidokie... lord grimnar can only play in a 2000pt battle? thats between 1500 and 2000 so it need to be rounded up to 2250... otherwise with a 2000 pt army i use 'ragnar' he can join at 1500, but it says nothing about rounding down... so I use 3 hq's in a 2000 pt battle grimnar/ragnar/ven dread. or am i wrong on that? (sven again and beers) he dose a lot of drinking and not enought fighting, I hope they come out with him as a charater??? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172312-hq-help/#findComment-2038253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar the great Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 what about ulrik? it says he can be counted as a HQ but gives no pt value, so between 750/1500 it seems to me that I can have 2 hq's, he just costs 200pt... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172312-hq-help/#findComment-2038266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 what about ulrik? it says he can be counted as a HQ but gives no pt value, so between 750/1500 it seems to me that I can have 2 hq's, he just costs 200pt... Yes, wich means he could be used as your one HQ for 750pts and under if you so chose. Ragnar can be played at 1500+. If its 1500pts youve agree on to the fight he counts as one of your two choices, if its at 1850 then its more than 1500 so youll need 3 HQ choices, but one of them can still be Ragnar. Logain can be played at 2000+. If its right at 2000 points you can play him as one of your HQs, all the way up to 2250. If its 2251pts or more then you need 4 HQs, one of whom can be Logain. At 3001pts you start needing a fifth HQ, one of whom can be Ragnar or Logain and another of wich can be Ulrik. Note: Logain and Ragnar are both wolf lords, so you can only take on or the other, not both as you are only allowed on Wolf Lord per army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172312-hq-help/#findComment-2038271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar the great Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 see im still learning new things myself brother, thank you for that... (don't you love this game...). but no one in the shop seems to have a pro if I field grimnar/ragnar (russ shot this pup and save us...). still learning brother.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172312-hq-help/#findComment-2038303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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