blood_raven_240 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Hello! May I first say, before somebody underestimates this Topic as 'I'm a Chaos Player and I want Lightning Claws!', I'd like to point out that's not my aim here. What I'd like to know is, have there been cases - in the History of Chaos (The Fluff) - where Chaos Terminators have been equipped with Lightning Claws? If yes: Does that mean, then, that there's potential for a Home-Brew Ruleset for Chaos Terminators with Lightning Claws? If no: Why not? Thanks, Blood Raven (And, please dont' bring up the 'Gaming Balance' argument. You'll have noticed that I speak not of the Game, but of the Fluff, and the History.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizza Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Maybe I am confused by what you are asking, but why not just use the rules in the codex? (p94 of the current chaos codex) They get claws as a standard option. I remember a diaorama in a white dwarf a LONG time ago showing Horus fighting the emperor where Horus was wearing black terminator armor with a pair of lightning claws...I haven't been able to find a pic since but I thought it was pretty sweet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2036701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood_raven_240 Posted July 1, 2009 Author Share Posted July 1, 2009 Maybe I am confused by what you are asking, but why not just use the rules in the codex? (p94 of the current chaos codex) They get claws as a standard option. I remember a diaorama in a white dwarf a LONG time ago showing Horus fighting the emperor where Horus was wearing black terminator armor with a pair of lightning claws...I haven't been able to find a pic since but I thought it was pretty sweet. W... wait, they're an option in the codex? See, I don't own the Codex, but I assumed since the Lightning Claws don't come with the Terminators themselves, that there wasn't an option for Chaos Terminators with Lightning Claws? Oops :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2036720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukov Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Hahaha. Yes indeed they are an option in the codex. How do they say it English again? 'Assumption is the mother of all fok-ups?'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2036729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AekoldHelbrass Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 If to talk about fluff - Julius Kaesoron, Fulgrim's first captain weared claws in Fulgrim novel. And there is pair of claws in Terminator Lord box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2036745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizza Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 The Chaos termie lightning claw arms for the regular guys must be on the same sprue as their combi plasma arm... ;) You may be able to find someone who got the Imperial termie assault box and is only using the TH/SS arms. Those should work on along with the chaos shoulder pads from the regular box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2036913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Our terminators have been able to use claws since 2nd ed! The Chaos termie lightning claw arms for the regular guys must be on the same sprue as their combi plasma arm... Or you can build this I agree with Rizza, trading for loyalist claws is probably the cheapest way to go about it. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2036916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Snips Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Whatever you do, do not buy the metal Space Marine lightning claw bits. They are absolute garbage and I wish I had never spent money on them. It is hard to find claws for chaos, but it depends what lengths you want to go to get them. You can buy SM terminators and just use those if you do not care about the look, or if you are going for pre heresey. Something I have tried is useing all possessed arm bits in place for counts as lightning claws. The ones that come in the chaos terminator lord are awesome, however, they are a rare find on bit sites and usually cost alot of money for just one set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2036950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeons Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Maybe I am confused by what you are asking, but why not just use the rules in the codex? (p94 of the current chaos codex) They get claws as a standard option. I remember a diaorama in a white dwarf a LONG time ago showing Horus fighting the emperor where Horus was wearing black terminator armor with a pair of lightning claws...I haven't been able to find a pic since but I thought it was pretty sweet. i thought standard was a twin-linked bolter+ a power weapon, whereas lightning claws were an upgrade option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2037152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TostitoBandito Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 What I did was buy several Terminator Lord boxes. I use the claws on my normal terminators, build a couple terminator lords/champions out of the kits (which I needed anyways), and sell the considerable leftovers in grouped bits auctions on ebay. It's a little work, but much cheaper overall than buying the individual lightning claw bits (which cost almost as much as you can get a full Terminator Lord box for). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2037223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draeden Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Maybe I am confused by what you are asking, but why not just use the rules in the codex? (p94 of the current chaos codex) They get claws as a standard option. I remember a diaorama in a white dwarf a LONG time ago showing Horus fighting the emperor where Horus was wearing black terminator armor with a pair of lightning claws...I haven't been able to find a pic since but I thought it was pretty sweet. i thought standard was a twin-linked bolter+ a power weapon, whereas lightning claws were an upgrade option. Power Weapon + TL Bolter is the Standard Loudout. Pair of Lightning Claws is a Standard Option Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2037267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I put the 2 LCs from the Lord/Sorc box on one of my Termies. He's the Champion - 5 rerolling to wound Power Weapon attacks on the charge? Yes please :huh: It's even more deadly when they're Khorne Termies. Yes, yes, I know it isn't a very competative option to have a pimped out squad of close combat monsters for Chaos Termies, but they do rack up an impressive kill count in-game :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2037395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Yea I've seen more fluff evidence to support twin claws on Termies, than I have seen evidence to support combi-meltas! (Not to say it doesn't exist) In the box, I also will use a clawed hand mixed with the mutated arm which easily counts for another claw hand. Also I can't remember off hand but I bought extra Chaos Lord plastic Termie sets just to get the extra arms. There's some good stuff in there including combi' weapons Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2037763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sköll Khan Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 You could have a go at converting up some power fists with green stuff, either extending the fingers into blades or adding wolverineesque blades. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2037815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 What I did was buy several Terminator Lord boxes. I use the claws on my normal terminators, build a couple terminator lords/champions out of the kits (which I needed anyways), and sell the considerable leftovers in grouped bits auctions on ebay. It's a little work, but much cheaper overall than buying the individual lightning claw bits (which cost almost as much as you can get a full Terminator Lord box for). Thats what I'd do. Plus the Termi-HQs body looks better, so if you ever want to add some uniqueness to your Terminator squad, it works. Terminators with dual Claws are nothing to sneeze at really. Most people talk about how much fun it is to give them Icon of Khorne, but I think the real money is on Slaanesh. 1/2 the price of Khorne and I5 means you're hitting before other Marines and at the same time as Eldar troops and Marine HQs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2038127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David the Despoiler Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Yeah,I agree. A full squad of champ's and claws plus MoS is a real pain in the neck. Your squad of Sternguard just deepstroke right beside me, loaded out with power weapons? Assault me. I dare you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2038500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 wouldnt sterngard rather shoot you anyway? unless you mean vangard :cry: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2038528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David the Despoiler Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 wouldnt sterngard rather shoot you anyway? unless you mean vangard :cry: Oops. I always get those mixed up. Bloody loyalists. :( Anyway, back on topic. One of the most effective things to do imo (my friend has done this with circa 15 terminators) is indeed buying TH/SS terminators and using the LCs. Only downside is that the claws are a tad short and square. but that can be easily fixed in many ways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2038533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Amarel Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I remember a diaorama in a white dwarf a LONG time ago showing Horus fighting the emperor where Horus was wearing black terminator armor with a pair of lightning claws...I haven't been able to find a pic since but I thought it was pretty sweet. I happened upon that the other day whilst looking through some old stuff, it's around WD120 that it's in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2038654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sköll Khan Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I remember a diaorama in a white dwarf a LONG time ago showing Horus fighting the emperor where Horus was wearing black terminator armor with a pair of lightning claws...I haven't been able to find a pic since but I thought it was pretty sweet. Not the best angle but... http://www.sodemons.com/gwmuseum/horus/04100327.JPG based on the same moment, two pieces of artwork show Horus with different load outs: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/3/3f/Emperor_VS_Horus.jpg http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/943/emperorvshorusjq9.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2038935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corpse. Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 People like the five Icon of Slaanesh/Khorne twin claw champs inside a land raider munch squad. Its spendy, but it packs a punch on par with other squads like honor guard and the like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2039100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeons Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 wouldn't buying one of these be the easiest way to give a squad of termis lightning claws? : http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...dId=prod1400026 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2039329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Snips Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 wouldn't buying one of these be the easiest way to give a squad of termis lightning claws? : http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...dId=prod1400026 Yes except that those are total garbage. They don't look nearly as clean as the ones in the picture. They are also very short and look like the wrong kind of arms on a terminator. And on top of that, you can't put any Chaos shoulder pads on them because they have generic marines ones built into them. It's almost always better to make your own or buy the plastic SM ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172350-chaos-terminators-with-lightning-claws/#findComment-2039431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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