Blackmoor Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I was taking a look at Adrians Smith's website and he has a lot of art of the Space Wolves. My question is, are these new drawings for the SW codex, or are they old works from the Sabertooth card game and other media? The pictures are at the bottom of the page here: Adrian Smith's Space Wolves Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Not sure if it's new or just never released. Maybe recent comissions for the upcoming release of the new Dex. Either way, they look good to me. I'm loving the Preist. http://www.adriansmith.co.uk/images/stories/gallery/c_as_2124.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2041208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I dunno, they look like something from the HH books rather than new artwork but they could be I suppose. I'm skeptical though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2041218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamLando Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I've seen them too, and can at least confirm that they've been on his site for about two-three months, somethine like that. Drawn for the dex or not, I dunno. I THINK I've seen some of them in the old Horus Heresy Art Book with pictures from the card game, but I'm not sure. Atleast those one in that book were painted using the same rough edge toi things. Don't miss out on the Leman Russ pic a bit above the others! http://www.adriansmith.co.uk/images/stories/gallery/c_as_2079.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2041221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Old, I'v found these more than 5 years ago :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2041230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bareserker Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Good try Blackmoor ! Sadly the experts say your wrong. Id not seen a lot of the artwork ,so thanks mate ! GOD bless ....................V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2041240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 The only new SW artwork i'am aware of is in the Planetstrike book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2041293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 The work from Sabertooth card game. If you notice the diffrent style of art work from his Nids (from 3rd Ed codex cover) & then the card once. Also GW been pretty tigh in term of perview new stuff right now (we did not see the new land speeder storm complete w/Scout until it was up for advance order). Like other have said the only new art work currently for Wolves is in the codex Planet Strike along with a short story of how they battle Tau in a water filled world. IP Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2041305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmoor Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 Some of it is pretty obviously for the HH artwork. You can tell by the style and also some of them have Pre-Heresy Thousand Sons in the pictures. What I was really questioning were the last 2. They look like they were done at a different time than the others (mostly because of the background and colors/style). I thought it is possible that the artwork did not make it into the codex and that is why he was able to put it up on his website. The funny thing is that in the last picture it took me a while to figure out if they were supposed to be Space Wolves, or Dwarves. Oh well, some of them are new to me, and that is what is important! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2041316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamLando Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I think the last one ain't Wolf nor Dwarfs, but actually Warhammer Fantasy Knights of the White Wolf or something similiary Ulric-related. Too much ordinary armor to be power armor, too tall to be dwarfs :o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2041502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 No, that last one on the bottom is definitely dwarven hammerers and their lord on his throne. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2041505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamLando Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Unless you've like seen that in a dwarf book or something, I just gotta say no to that ;) I'm a long time dwarf player, andf those guys are way to skinny around the face, neck and chest to be dwarfs, that or dear Adrian's started to draw thin dwarfs :P The anatomy is way off, if they are dwarfs, and I don't reckon adrian smith would do suchs basic mistakes:/ Also, all the wolf emblems and stuff makes totally no sense on dwarfs, there should be runes and other orments, I still reckon it's Knights of thwe White wolf. They tend to look like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2041563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 That's the Ar-Ulric and his Teutogon Guard from the Middenheim army list in the Storm of Chaos campaign book. They're wearing full plate armor and wielding cavalry hammers, the favored weapons of the Knights of the White Wolf. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2041622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Rao Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 That last pic is of Ar-Ulric and his Teutonic Guard, a unit of Knights of the White Wolf on foot that functions as his bodyguard. Definitely WFB. Those units/models were featured in the Storm of Chaos campaign book. Edit: Ah Bran beat me to it! And yes it is idd Teutogen Guard, not Teutonic. I bow to thy leetness. :D LR Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2041623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamLando Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Ah, though so. Glad we got that sorted... would've been awesome had they been some kind of Space Wolf special character though :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2041627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Edit: Ah Bran beat me to it! And yes it is idd Teutogen Guard, not Teutonic. I bow to thy leetness. :) LR Finally someone figures it out. Good job minion! *tosses steak to Rao* :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2041652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 All of that artwork was done for the Horus Hersey ART BOOKS. I'm staring right at it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2041678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skrubb Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Yep. Ar-Ulrik. I have used bits from the priest at the back. His staff has become my rune staff: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads..._2791_62326.jpg The wolf heads sticking up at the back decorates the shoulder pad of my wolf guard battle leader: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads..._2791_64977.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2042091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Odd then, if those SW pictures are supposed be from the HH. I mean, they're painted up having the current colors instead of the dark grey that the Wolves wore during the Great Crusade. And those Wulfen, they look more like ape-like than wolfish. Are we becoming the Space DamnDirtyApes* now? * This is mine, you can't have this Chapter name, I came up with it. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2042094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Odd then, if those SW pictures are supposed be from the HH. I mean, they're painted up having the current colors instead of the dark grey that the Wolves wore during the Great Crusade. Bran, Where did this idea that the Space Wolves had a different Grey color back in the Horus Heresy come from? The only chapter that I can think of that has an actual "fluff" explanation for color scheme changes are the Dark Angels whose Power Armor went from Black to Dark Green, and whose Death Wing started painting there Terminator Armor "Ash" White after the events on Plains World. For the Space Wolves, I remember when the real-world transition from Grey to Blue-Grey happened, but I don't recall ever reading any "fluff" explanation for the change. Thanks, Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2042248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Didn't it use to be that the 13th Company (who are a dark grey color) were wearing the original colors of the Chapter and that the current Wolves wear the new scheme? I know I've read somewhere that the original colors were actual grey, not this blue color, I just don't remember where. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2042573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I think it was just more along the lines of "GW liked pale blue wolves, therefore wolves are pale blue now." Most of the fluff dealing with the early wolves, around the HH era, has the wolves in dark grey armor, not powder blue (even in the new HH books). Somewhere along the line, in the mid 90's, GW just up and decided that a sky blue color fit the wolves much better and wouldnt stand out at all on the battle field :wacko: As soon as I saw the dark grey on the 13th co dudes, I found the color scheme i prefer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2042662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Huh, so I must have read it somewhere here on the B&C as someone's explanation for the color change. I must have thought that was the real reason. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2042677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Maybe the artist simply made an "error" or was given the green light by GW that wolves may have had both colors represented during the heresy or transitioned during the heresy. In any event, the patriotic colors of fenris are black and yellow so I'm not sure we have to be so tied to one or the other. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2042847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Huh, so I must have read it somewhere here on the B&C as someone's explanation for the color change. I must have thought that was the real reason. I haven't read any of the Horus Heresy books, so I wasn't sure if the color change had been "retconned" into the fluff or not. I know that in the real world one of the 'Eavy Metal painters went with the blue-grey once, and it somehow caught on as an "official change in color", so everyone started painting their armies like GW painters had. I've even heard a rumor that the change wasn't even intentional, but was simply an issue with the photography, that didn't capture the true color of the models. Whatever really happened doesn't matter, as a new color standard had been established. I didn't recall, however, GW ever offering an official explanation in the fluff for the change. I did notice when the 13th company was first released for the Eye of Terror campaign in 3rd edition, that the GW painter used a codex-grey base, vice the blue-grey base. I just figured that was the painters preference, and he had been given artistic license to paint them as he saw fit. This, then, became the de facto standard color scheme for 13th company armies, as it is understandable to paint them as you see them in the book, and on the GW homepage. I think this caused folks to assume that at some point in the background material the Space Wolves went from a grey paint scheme in the HH era, to change to a different scheme somewhere along the way to the 41st millennium. I don't think this is the case, but you never know if GW felt compelled to somehow provide a fluff answer for the real world discrepancies. Regards, Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172723-is-this-new-space-wolf-artwork/#findComment-2042890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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