yergerjo Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 *grumbles about paying the price of a scout to weld iron plates onto his iron warmachines* Thats actually one of my biggest bones with the new codex, I could see 10... but 15 seems an overreaction. Considering the survivability it grants the simple dread, its worth it. In fact the Dread is the only "vehicle" which is worth always putting it on...it keeps you moving, allowing the assault; it prevents you from losing 1 more attack in CC, meaning maybe you will continue to kill 1 enemy model a round...AV 12 is still tough to penetrate in assault (unless you are an MC...) but easy to glance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Exactly- wich is why I grumble... 15pts is pretty steep for say a predator, or god forbid a rhino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailormander Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 The only things I take extra armor on are critical units. For example a rhino with a tac squad doesn't seem worht the points to me. 15 pt upgrade for a 35 pt vehicle... no thanks. However, I will put extra armor on that same rhino if it is transporting a squad of sternguard with He'Stan as well. This is a make-or-break kind of unit, so it REALLY needs to be where I need it. I will always pay to put extra armor on a land raider, as it's a 240-250 pt hunk of crap if it gets stunned somewhere random. And as said before, the squad inside is a make-or-break kind of unit, so they warrant the extra expenditure. I will take extra armor for dreads if I have the points to spare, however, I usually spend those points somewhere else. More often than not, I use Ironclads instead, which come with extra armor. So, I don't have to think about it. It's all based on what I value the unit as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkPrincess Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 This raises a question...doesn't the stormbolter/flamer count as a 3rd weapon? Or does it die with the fist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Built-In weapons are lost as well if the weapon they are built into are destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotsmeakabob!! Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Where do you read that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Rulebook page 73, the box about Dreadnought Close Combast Weapons, second paragraph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotsmeakabob!! Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Damn side-boxes, I'll take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Thank god. Ill show that at the next tournament... Ive been looking for it for months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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