Ragnar the great Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 guys I need help and understanding... this blasted lysander chap is a mean dude... for me to have any chance against him I would need grimnar/wolf guard but I need to field a 2000 pt army before that, but other chapters use him willy nilly and his cost v destruction seems woth it, I've seen him with UM/templars. toe to toe v ragnar/ulrik he would win, how do you beat this chap? too me it seems a cheap way to bring in a charater who is a bass ass... if he is on the side of the 'imperium' can he not assist us SW when fighting? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172897-lysander-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 You kill him by using the law of averages. Enough bolter rounds = failed saves = dead! No seriously, if he comes at you in an LR, ok, that's mean, but it's also going to be a huge chunk of someones army, so try to stay out of it's way and shoot other units to pieces first. If he Deepstrikes in: Success. He can't assault and you can move out of charge range and shoot away at him to your hearts content. Yes, he's mean in CC which is why you don't take him on in CC unless you have something crazy like 22 blood claws giving him 18 Power Fist attacks in one charge... Yes, we are a CC oriented army, but some guys should be softened up in shooting first... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172897-lysander-question/#findComment-2043609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 you can only take him by using the SM dex isntead of C:SW to answer your last question in apoc however you could use him Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172897-lysander-question/#findComment-2043642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar the great Posted July 8, 2009 Author Share Posted July 8, 2009 thx as a noob I only use the C:SM and then add the SW, I'll get him and hold him in reserve.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172897-lysander-question/#findComment-2043653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 thx as a noob I only use the C:SM and then add the SW, I'll get him and hold him in reserve.... uhm, what???? you mean you use the marine dex and take units as you like from the SW dex? like a list lead by lysander, some vanguard and sternguard, some tactical marines and some grey hunters and bloodclaws? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172897-lysander-question/#findComment-2043659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Hengist Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I've got to agree with some of guys on this matter, I've only come up against Lysander once and managed to drop him with mass Blood Claw attacks. The Powerfists did bugger all but the sheer weight of attacks from the pups dragged him down. I'm starting to believe that weight of fire is king in 5th edition against all opposition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172897-lysander-question/#findComment-2043664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar the great Posted July 8, 2009 Author Share Posted July 8, 2009 no thats not what I mean pick and chose, I will usally play C:SW but with friends at home to teach them and learn myself it's just a streight forward SM match. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172897-lysander-question/#findComment-2043688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The God Emperor Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 The weight of fire has always been king. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172897-lysander-question/#findComment-2044508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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