chaplain belisarius Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Am considering doing abaddon, some termies and two ten man csm squads (2xmelta, asp champ with fist, in rhino) just for fun...the idea is its a small raiding party led by abaddon. Is this ok or is it cheesy at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 not cheesy at all. rather weak gamplay wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukov Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Well what Jeske says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maladon Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 2 cents here- I wouldn't use Abaddon in any game less than 1.5k points... not worth it plus if u do, ur going to be out numbered possibly 2-1 and abs isn't going to be a one man killing machine, he will be target number 1... a low point cost lord or sorceror and more squads, leave abaddon and terminators at 1.5k mark and above -My task is done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4109 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I would say in Obj games your screwed. But in a KP/VP game I'd probably kill you for doing something so cheesey. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 If its for a theamed or storied game then I'd say go for it. Not a good turny or pick up game force though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Lord Shamrockius Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Well, under 2nd ed, you couldn't do it but i wouldn't do it at this edition purely down to his cost. 275pts in a 1k list doesn't leave you with a lot left for troops etc. You'll probably get 2 squads, maybe of 10, probably without rhinos and an oblit with what you have left... In my meagre experience with the new rules, unwise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corpse. Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Unfit for small games. Though he can hold a bloodthirster on his own, if he was used wisely he could carry the game. Its just like a necron player taking a C'tan in 1k, just aim for the soft spot in the army. For you, focus fire on abbadon will bring him down and your potential game carrier is gone. (For necros is phasing them out via low WBB models). If you really want to do it, then pack three full troop squads of ten, two with rhinos and the third escorting abbadon behind them. 450+60(meltas)+275 for abby, that can be decent. Though, toss abba against 3 wraithlords or a c'tan and you may feel a bit short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 how does abadon kill a bloodthirster , if its impossible for him to charge a bloodthirster ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Snips Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 You better be playing a friend of at least tell the person you are playing before hand that you will be using Abaddon in such a low point game. Abaddon in a 1k game is pretty hammy, so it should only be done for fun with someone who also wants to run something stupid like that. As for his strength, the only thing he would have trouble with is fast army's like Eldar or a horde of Orcs overwhelming him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 or something that moves faster then 6" per turn. so anything mech so all tau , almost all eldar , all sm or on bikes like khan lists . any chaos army with dual lash . any IG army that can generate enough shots to take down his transports or his unit after he deep strikes/footslogges[and can the IG do it ? yes they can]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 or something that moves faster then 6" per turn. so anything mech so all tau , almost all eldar , all sm or on bikes like khan lists . any chaos army with dual lash . any IG army that can generate enough shots to take down his transports or his unit after he deep strikes/footslogges[and can the IG do it ? yes they can]. What if he plays against footslogger armies with his friends, with barely any transports? Holy crap, that's unheard of! ;) :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 What if he plays against footslogger armies with his friends, with barely any transports? Holy crap, that's unheard of yes that is , unless his friends play all DW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 What if he plays against footslogger armies with his friends, with barely any transports? Holy crap, that's unheard of yes that is , unless his friends play all DW. Unheard of there. Here, I've only ever played a mechanised army once. That was Dark Eldar. Every other army I've played has, at max, 3 transports. IE: 2 Rhinos and a Land Raider. Hell, I've even played an army with no Rhinos and 3 Land Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 not bellow at least 1.5k for me but even then i wouldn't take him. abaddon takes up more than 1/4 of the points for a 1k game and he's just one guy. useless really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 take Khârn with him as well, then you can see which if any of them make it to combat and if they both make it you can keep a tally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustermaker Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 take Khârn with him as well, then you can see which if any of them make it to combat and if they both make it you can keep a tally. That would be a really fun thing to try once actually! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 If you wanna play with the big A in a small game, you might as well go balls to the wall with it. Abaddon5 Plague Marines, Flamer/Meltagun 6 Plague Marines, Flamer/Meltagun Land Raider Land Raider 998 points Very much a "win big or lose big" kind of army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 As people have said it's kind of a one trick pony, but also it makes absolutely zero sense fluff wise. Abaddon would not lead a small raiding party, he's the bloody warmaster, he leads Black Crusades, he leaves the small raids to his myriad underlings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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